The United States shoudl Mercilessly exploit the EU's weakness for our own Gain.

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  1. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure that China will be doing most of the exploiting in the near future, but that's only because they're far better capitalists than both us or Europe.
     
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    The NAZIS, also known as the German National SOCIALIST Party, was in competition with the communists, therefore they were enemies.
     
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    Why would you ever give any credence to what Mussolini had to say?
     
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    To clarify... anyone who isn't Republican or Libertarian is a socialist.
     
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    Since he was vital for the creation of the ideology I will take his word on what it defends.

    If I call myself a vegetarian and eat meat am I a vegetarian?
    Just like the nazis.


    Explain why even today nazis and communists are on oposite sides of the political board.
     
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    Beware of Brazil, they're the next up-n-comer. The US government is already granting them "privileges" they wont allow their own citizens.
     
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    Mises would say that anyone who's not a libertarian is a socialist.

    I don't quite agree with it.. but it's something to think about. I can't say that because I believe that some minimal level of Statism is a requirement for an orderly and just society makes me a Socialist.
     
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    They're not. The communists and Nazis believe in the same totalitarian state.
     
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    Hmmm... perhaps, he's right. I wonder if anarchists consider everyone else socialist....
     
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    Eh... Capitalism works like that sometimes. They just need to get rid of their socialists.
     
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    If you think so, it must be true doesnt matter the facts. It doesnt matter communist-nazi fights but if rightists say it then its true.



    Ruling party in brazil:

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    problem conservatives?
     
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    Wow! What an attitude!

    Is it from a capitalistic or socialistic perspective?
     
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    The ruling party in Brazil is closely associated with the Chavez regime in Venezuela, as are the Kirchners in Argentina (Christine is a big supporter of Hillary Clinton). So, Yes they may be considered socialists, although I consider them fascists.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

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    Calling PT socialist is a bit of an exageration.

    The president once was a real socialist tough:
    http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilma_Rousseff
     
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    Ah, so that's how it works. Well, since I'm an Anarcho-Capitalist, if I describe Anarcho-Capitalism as left-wing it must be true!
     
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    So if the very guys who created fascism stated it as right wing it is left because you say so.
     
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    It has fundamental commonalities with "left wing" ideologies. Whatever you choose to call it does not matter.
     
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    The guy who created fascism was Benito Mussolini, a lifelong socialist and the son of a devout lifelong socialist.
     
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    "Privileges" such as...?
     
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    Well, given that it was an economic calculation that he made, and socialism is marked by a lack of economic calculation, I'd have to say it was capitalist in nature. And, were he to make such a calculation in a socialist utopia, I think that only a stint in a re-education labor camp would be appropriate for the offense.
     
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    I don't, but I do consider anyone who supports any initiation of aggression by government as justified to either be without political ethics, or to be logically inconsistent in the deriving right and wrong from those ethics. For the most part, I think that most people give little consideration to their political ethics and, when challenged on them, get angry for even being asked to think about it. They would prefer to respond to each issue as it if is separate from every other issue, much like a doctor might treat a symptom without consideration for the cause of the ailment or the health of the patient.
     

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