The US needs to re-instate the draft .

The military refuses quite a lot of recruits. There are no shortage of applicants when the economy is this bad. They keep standards high during such times, to maintain a particular size.

Hardly. There ought to be a constitutional amendment banning the draft. Conscription is unamerican.

The insult to them is insisting that we have to continue pointless overseas conflicts--forcing them to risk their lives because they volunteered to fight. If we want to reduce their difficulties, we need to end the wars and bring them home.

The wealthy have always escaped the draft; they simply get deferments or find positions deemed required in the private sector at home. For example, working a cush managerial job in the defense manufacturing industry that their uncle the Senator found for them.

People who avoid combat tend to be the people who don't like it and don't push for it. Blaming pacifists for the war is stupid.

The draft never put their sons into danger! Even in the unlikely event that the children of the politically powerful were drafted, they would be assigned in non-combat positions more often than not.

 

Pretty sure there's a difference between continual redeployment and "sending them home whenever they complain." It's not like the military couldn't provide help at the bases--as they do at the larger ones. What this really suggests is that perhaps soldiers ought not to be redeployed so often to isolated postings, especially after traumatic brain injuries.

We haven't declared a war since World War II.

When has Washington ever listened when the people speak up against policies and actions in favor of the elite? The elite don't listen when the people object to their privilege.

That apathy came about mainly because of the destruction of real politics in the United States. Among other things, we are apathetic mainly because the right-wingers won, and the left is dead, so what passes for politics in the United States is mainly about arguing about which flavor of (*)(*)(*)(*) you'd rather swallow.

 

I personally wouldn't say complete Apathy after the events of last year but thats me,as one who has a family member being readied to go to Afghanistan and one recently returned ,i can assure you the DEBACLE quagmire of Veitnam0.2,is never far from my mind.

Stop War Stop the need for Conscription ,I say.

My relatives then stay home safe.

My fellow humans in Afghanistan can get on with peace and life.

WIN,WIN result ,not based on the What if of the Bush Doctrine ,where evidence is persented and then counted with ,Yes ,but "what IF"what if Iraq has WMD for instance.

Yes ,but Mr President all the evidence from the Weapons Inspectors we sent and choose says that Iraq Has no WMD.

Don't worry about that,I have been told by God ,What if.100 000's die on a what if,zero tolerence on Knowledge and FACTS is What if ,president Bush was a Mass murdering ,Capitialist crony Politican and a war criminal ,NO WHAT IF ABOUT IT WIKILEAKS and many others Have the Evidence ,go talk to a Soldier returned about it ,they are clear one thing the War in Afghanistan Definitely isn't about is Democracy.no 'IF's" abou it.

Lets have conscription you rekon ,WHAT IF the US population is feed up with the War with no plan to end?

What if they realise with the formation of a Karzai\Taliban Government ,presently underway ,that the WHOLE thing has ben a Lie??????

What if they realise that to find terrorism against humanity ,one need not travel abroad to find it ,ZERO TOLERENCE POLICY is the policy of the Taliban .Alqada and the US Government BTW,lets add Assad in Syria ,hey the attitude of all Governments at this moment is ZERO TOLERENCE to the demands of Democracy against Austerity.

Hey,What if the IMF returns Italy to the Italian People lets add ireland ,Greece,Spain ,Portugal,EU !

 

If you support a draft, I actually consider you more of a fascist.

 

No. Sugarcoat it however you want, you cannot get past one simple fact: a draft (by any name) is SLAVERY, pure and simple. It is not just wrong, it is evil.

 

there will not be another civil war .

the Draft won't stop the Wars of the future , but it will demand that any Wars fought must be mandated / sanctioned by Congress .

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What about having pride in our Nation , and being there when your country needs you ? What about being a patriot ? The draft will not send everyone to War , but it will ensure that any War is spread equally throughout the land , as I said in a previous post , either we all stand together or we don't .

, I don't agree , the Draft would subject all citizens to Military service , and every induction center requires a medical evaluation of every inductee , so if there is a physical problem , then they are rejected .

I am firmly convinced that the Military we have today is the finest group of soldiers that the USA has ever had , well trained and absolutely dedicated .

What I am saying is that NO soldier should serve more than 2 tours of duty in a combat MOS , and the only way to ensure that is to bring back the draft .

 

The draft is unconstitutional.

 

So...if seasoned soldiers are committing suicide..your solution is to force civilians to serve in these wars.....wow...

We need to pay more attention to mental health. Currently we tend to make fun of those that feel bad more than normal....

 

I agree but mainly cause we are missing the socialization of different classes that we once had.

 

Free people will only remain Free as long as they are willing to fight and maybe die for their freedom ..

the grave stones / markers at Arlington is my proof .

 

Proof that people died for their government... not their freedom.

 

seasoned soldiers ? WTF ? man , with all respect , you can't drop a soldier in a meat grinder for 10+ years and expect them to be sane . .

the Draft is sanctioned as legitimate for the protection of the USA.

yes , and that is because many people view our Military as a mercenary force controlled by the President .

 

so you are ok if Hitler had won ?

 

The draft is indentured servitude and illegal according to the 13th amendment and natural law.

 

Screw the draft, the problem is not conscripting citizens, the problem is not war but the administration declaring "police actions" and the Congress funding them.

Now we have a new definition with this administration where we are now protecting protesters of other countries. How absurd can it get?

We should be defending the nation only from invasion instead of these forays into imperialism. If we were doing that then there would never be any shortage of the willing.

 

you dont have to shoot a single bullet, those brown people kill eachother on a daily basis. they dont need our help doing that.

 

When we fight wars that the people support, a draft isn't necessary; people line up to do their part. It's only when the government forces through these wars that nobody wants or understands that we need a draft.

 

it's not slavery , it's the responsibilty of US citizenship . if your a coward , then just admit it .

I served in the 101 Abn , a recon / scout . does that make my post more meaningful for you ?

I agree in principle , my friend , but as long as our US soldiers endure the Hell of a 3 , 4, 5, 6, 7 tours of Combat , I'll stand for bringing the Draft back .

Either we all share the sacrifice of War , or we don't , but our soldiers deserve better than to be dropped in a meat grinder for 10 + years .

No one could endure that much HELL and not be changed ... to live every second ready to fight or flee , one tour is too much , two tours maybe , but 5 or 6 or 7 tours in a combat mos , it's too much for anyman to take and stay sane , and it's time the American people recognise that ..

a soldier goes where he is sent , he fights because he has to to survive , some sorry sob he's never met is trying to kill him , so a soldier does what a soldier does , he shoots back ... a soldier eats gunpowder and fear every second of every day , and every night brings not the peaceful sleep of civilians back home , but instead the fitful rest of a warrior that must on the instant will rise and fight someone that is trying to kill him . , a soldier learns to sleep with his eyes & ears always open , a soldier eats MRE's that 10 years old , a soldier learns by seeing his buddies die in front of his eyes , what soldier could endure that for 10 + years and not be changed into a maniac / mad man ?

As I see it , my opinion , when these soldiers come home , they won't be able to adapt to civilian life , how could they ? their stories and the horrors they've seen they will take it to their graves , and there will be and are many such .

 

America can't fight foreign wars effectively because of political division at home. It has become acceptable to use foreign conflicts for domestic political advantage. That means the soldiers are always going to get sandbagged. This being the case it is better not to fight again under any circumstances. This obviates the need for a draft or for a military for that matter other than a token force.

 

Obviously....they do!

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/231686.html

Have a nice day....you know the Iraqies Yemen, Somalia, Barain, Mexicians and the Afghans are not going to have a nice day.....and all thanks to your AIPAC masters!

For god sake waken up and smell the coffee!

Whats it like to know that all the degererates are running you nation?

Highlander

 

How would Hitler have won if the US had not intervened? Do you have evidence of this or are you just making baseless assertions?
US intervention in WWII allowed the Soviets to build an empire, started an arms race that lasted 50 years and brought the world to the brink of nuclear annihilation.

 

I have a little different take on warfare and the draft.

If deemed necessary to enter into conflict, do it decisively, then get the hell out. Screw all this holding hands and nation building BS.

Stop bankrupting the U.S. with nation building... and multiple tours will be unnecessary.

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Unfortunately, I don't think the above will ever happen.

 

Is it cowardly to refuse to fight in a war if it is unjust? If you feel that what is being asked of you is morally wrong and in no way protecting your country, should you still have to serve or be a coward and go to Canada?

 

So when is Obama gonna start drafting people.

If he does like everything else, he'll ignore the fact that Congress hasn't authorized conscription.

 

Responsibility of US citizenship to spend years in military and nationalistic indoctrination? What happened to freedom and liberty. If you want to live in a militaristic regime where all liberty is granted by the government rather than protected by the government, then just admit it.

Hey, how about we don't start futile wars without any long term goals and objectives that end up in decade long quagmires. We helped defeat the Nazi and the Japanese quicker than the the war in Afghanistan. The problem is the war being waged without a realistic objective, not the lack of a draft.