The World Spewed More Carbon Pollution Into The Air Last Year Than Ever Before

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  1. Riot

    Riot New Member

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    Obama doesn't care so I won't. It's that easy. When Obama cares enough about the climate and his footprint so will I.
     
  2. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    The very folks who want to us to go green to save the planet are all to happy to fly around in their jets, drive their SUV's and own multiple homes. Oh, and they love the planet so much they marched in NYC the other day and left behind a sign or two...
    garbage.jpg

    To remind us of just how devoted they are.
     
  3. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    That was pretty obvious, so I included links to proof so you can educate yourself.

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    Sure, Read the links, I have provided for you.

    Perhaps next time youd like to make an argument, youll back up your posts with links to proof, like I did.
     
  4. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    You linked to a blog that's making it's own interpretations of the data. Not scientific interpretations. And you linked to a tabloid. And you linked a broken link which doesn't work.

    You have not linked to a scientific article supporting your claim.
     
  5. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    No, I provided you with 3 separate links to different news sources, and youve provided nothing but denials.
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    East coast hurricanes are nothing new. Here is a list of NY Hurricanes.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_hurricanes
     
  7. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    You didn't link to news. You linked to opinions. And opinions are worthless without credentials and backing from the scientific community.
    I linked to data from scientific websites that you're currently trying to dispute with non-credentialed opinion. One written by Christopher Booker, a journalist with no scientific background and the other written by a man using a fake name who claims to only have a BS in electrical engineering and biology. In other words not a scientist. And if that weren't enough he's a birther too. He believes Obama faked his birth certificate and was actually born in Kenya. Real winner of a source you picked there.
     
  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Scientific interpretations are also 'opinion'.
     
  9. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Credentialed opinion*
     
  10. Draco

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    Science really hasn't proven anything about climate change, that's the problem.

    All of it is basically predictions based off of models, almost all of which have been proven dramatically false.

    I want a cleaner planet, but it needs to be done in ways that don't destroy our economy.

    If we do, China and India will overtake us and set the rules.

    Then you global warming guys are really in trouble.
     
  11. TheTaoOfBill

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    Models are actually tremendously accurate. It's pretty rare when they are wrong and when they are we go back and take a look at them and fix them until they are right. We know enough about climate and CO2 to know that pumping this much CO2 into the atmosphere is probably one of the worst environmental disasters of human history. And if you truly do want a cleaner environment then you should support doing everything we can to limit that. China and India are not going to start beating us economically any time soon. It'll be extremely difficult for any country that's not a melting pot of cultures to take over the global market. That's pretty much the main reason we do so well globally. China and India will never beat us in the global game anytime soon.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    Warmers = 1%ers and litterbugs.
     
  13. way2convey

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    Yep, and I remember the mess Obama fans left behind in DC after his inauguration, too ... seems there's a connection....imagine that.
     
  14. Hoosier8

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    Appeal to authority.

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    Surprising PNAS paper: CO2 emissions not the cause of U.S. West Coast warming

    The vast majority of coastal temperature increases since 1900 are the result of changes in winds over the eastern Pacific Ocean, the authors found. But they could find no evidence that those weather patterns were themselves being influenced by the human burning of fossil fuels.
     
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    There is no record of Anthony Watts even graduating college.
     
  16. Hoosier8

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    So you ignore what PNAS says because someone else told you? How do you learn anything (might this be your problem)?
     
  17. MrConservative

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    What kind of car do you drive? Do you ever fly?
     
  18. TheTaoOfBill

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    Is she telling people what kind of cars to drive and telling people to not fly? No? So what's the point of your post exactly?
     
  19. MrConservative

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    No, but it's easier for people to talk down on people, but are often too unwilling to make the change themselves. Why get mad at just the companies if the consumers keep buying gas guzzling cars? She's putting absolutely no blame on the consumers who purchase vehicles that help to destroy our environment.
     
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    but yet, some will rely upon Snope's for their truth................
     
  21. TheTaoOfBill

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    I don't. Not for global warming anyway.
     
  22. TheTaoOfBill

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    Is that actually your position? That people should give up their cars? Stop flying airplanes? So far I haven't met anyone who actually has that opinion. Cars and airplanes are important to our economy. We can't give them up. The best thing to do is to invest in the technology that would make cars and planes more carbon neutral.
     

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