The young flee Israel because it is a ‘failure’ and xenophobic theocracy

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    And we continue:

    ARTICLE 53
    Citizens have freedom of speech and of the press in
    keeping with the objectives of socialist
    society.
    Material conditions for the exercise of th
    at right are provided by the fact that the
    press, radio, television, movies and other organs o
    f the mass media are State or social
    property and can never be private property. This as
    sures their use at the exclusive service of
    the working people and in the interest of society.
     
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    This one is very important due to the one part nature of the state:

    CHAPTER X
    SUPREME ORGANS OF PEOPLE’S POWER
    ARTICLE 69
    The National Assembly of People’s Power is the supr
    eme organ of State power and represents
    and expresses the sovereign will of all the working
    people.
    ARTICLE 70
    The National Assembly of People’s Power is the only
    organ in the Republic invested with
    constituent and legislative authority.
    ARTICLE 71
    The National Assembly of the People’s Power is comp
    rised of deputies elected through a free,
    direct, and secret ballot by the voters, in the pro
    portion and according to the procedure that
    the law establishes.
    ARTICLE 72
    The National Assembly of People’s Power is elected
    for a period of five years.
    This period can only be extended by virtue of a resolution of the Assembly itself in the event
    of war or in the case of other exceptional circumstances that may impede the normal holding
    of elections and while such circumstances exist.
    ARTICLE 73
    The National Assembly of People’s Power, upon convening for a new legislature, elects from
    among its deputies its President, Vice President, and Secretary.
    The law regulates the manner
    and procedure whereby the Assembly convenes and hol
    ds that election.


    Only under a Stalinistic throwback could one conceivably see a hereditary dictatorship; such as, as the one in Cuba and the one in North Korea but hey you have yourself a nice doctor shopping little holiday on their beautiful beaches. Cuba should be the 51st state by now FYI.
     
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    Not only should Cuba have free elections but they should be allowed to have a national referendum for joining the union. As it stands all Cubans are citizens of our republic the 2nd they step foot on our shores.
     
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    That´s all very interesting. Cuba, though, must be viewed within a set of specific socioeconomic and political contexts sadly absent by those whose motivations lie elsewhere.
     
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    Socio-economic conditions brought about by a backwards economic policy under a totalitarian regime. Your assertion that the U.S. boycott is to blame for the stalinistic throwback that is Cuba is simple laughable. But heh tell us again how you love spending your holidays in a one party totalitarian state. We're all ears. Paradise right? Utopia? :roll:
     
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    The boycott is merely one component amongst many.
     
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    Would a major component be totalitarianism, dictatorship, the economy as a piggy bank for Castro and his familia? Just what exactly is your major component in this equation sir?
     
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    Repeated US attempts at subversion is a key factor. Cuba is a third world nation that has repèatedly fought off the yoke of US imperialism. In that context it remains a beacon of hope for millions who look for an alternative to the prevailing orthodoxy pertaining to the US neoliberal economic consensus. This tiny third world country has fought of numerous US administrations and remains to this day on a war footing with its impèrialist aggressor 90 miles away. Castro understands, rightly, that under such circumstances, certain freedoms have to be curtailed and momentarily suspended. Churchill understood this too in his fight against Hitler fascism. The truth is, Castro is well aware that Cuba is awash with traitors and potential traitors as Churchill was equally aware that Britain had in its midst fascist sympathizers and traitors. Churchill had to suspend democracy for 6 years. For Castro the process in Cuba is necessarily on-going. Cuba has survived against the odds and this pisses the Americans off big time which is why it is deemed necessary for successive US administrations to continue with the kind of propaganda perpetuated by people like you.
     
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    I am not seeing a answer to the question. Just a self absorb rant.

     
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    That´s your problem.
     
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    Of course, more self absorption.

     
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    Of course it is....LOL.
     
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    Can you answer the question without ranting?

     
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    Already have.
     
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    In that rant? Gibberish self absorb collection of words that come with prejudice leanings.

     
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    Have you anything worthwhile to add or is it your intention to derail the thread with your trolling?
     
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    I asked if you could answer the question without all the messy ego. Can you?

     
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    I´ve answered it already. You don´t like the answer, too bad. Byeeee. Troll somebody else. I´m not interested.
     
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    I will take that as no.

     
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    Take it anyway you like. I don´t give a flying f@@k. I am going to have to ignore you from this point on.
     
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    More self absorption. No worries......

     
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    Women complaining of the Israeli government, one of them dreaming about living in Berlin, Germany... What an irony... to Berlin as the best place...

    Young people migrating from Israel to other countries...

    And I know people preparing to travel and live in Israel for good...

    I don't think that migration of young people is related to a theocratic government in Israel, but to look for a better horizon, like better way of living in the US, a more complex and different environment, better opportunities for certain careers, etc... because Israel tolerates homosexuals and lesbians in the army... so such is not an issue, Israel productivity is very expanded and moral statutes doesn't affect it at all...

    Perhaps is a daily pressure of a sudden war is what is causing young people to migrate, like the air strikes made by Israel to countries neighbors as "preventive" measurements... sooner or later some country will attack back and young people will be called to defend the country... and the first afftected ones are the young people living in Israel.
     
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    Repeated US attempts to overthrow a totalitarian communist regime created a totalitarian communist regime? Wow just wow.

    And by "fought off US imperialism" you of course mean creating a totalitarian regime under a tyrannical dictator who suckled at the tit of Soviet imperialism which occupied and brutalized half of the western world for nearly half a century.

    An alternative to what? Not locking up political prisoners? Not murdering gays in forced labor camps headed by Che with signs reading "work will make men of you". just what exactly is this alternative sir?

    http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/46-years-after-death-che-guevara-still-an-undeserving-idol/

    lol perhaps on your planet the US is the aggressor but here on planet reality it was Che who wished for the nuclear holocaust of the United States:

    “Of course I knew the missiles were nuclear-armed. That’s precisely why I urged Khrushchev to launch them. And of course Cuba would have been utterly destroyed in the exchange.” -- Fidel Castro

    “If the missiles had remained, we would have fired them against the very heart of the U.S., including New York. The victory of socialism is well worth millions of atomic victims.” -- Che Guevara

    “My dream is to drop three atomic bombs on New York City.”
    -- Raul Castro

    Such victims of oppression!

    Such freedoms as basic human rights?

    (Washington, DC) - Raúl Castro's government has locked up scores of people for exercising their fundamental freedoms and allowed scores more political prisoners arrested during Fidel Castro's rule to languish in detention, Human Rights Watch says in a report released today. Rather than dismantle Cuba's repressive machinery, Raúl Castro has kept it firmly in place and fully active, the report says.

    The 123-page report, "New Castro, Same Cuba," shows how the Raúl Castro government has relied in particular on the Criminal Code offense of "dangerousness," which allows authorities to imprison individuals before they have committed any crime, on the suspicion that they are likely to commit an offense in the future. This "dangerousness" provision is overtly political, defining as "dangerous" any behavior that contradicts Cuba's socialist norms.


    http://www.hrw.org/news/2009/11/18/cuba-ra-l-castro-imprisons-critics-crushes-dissent

    Interesting choice of words considering that the only country in the western hemisphere which can properly be labeled fascist is Cuba.

    DECENTRALIZATION, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND CITIZEN PARTICIPATION IN CUBA

    Nelson Amaro


    The CDR officials have the duty to know the activities
    of each person in their respective blocks. There is
    an individual file kept on each block resident, some
    of which reveal the internal dynamics of households.
    For this reason Maida Donate-Armada (1996) says
    that “perhaps the greatest contribution (of the
    CDRs) to the history of world espionage may be to
    have raised to the level of counterintelligence the daily
    gossip (chismes) and disagreements (bretes) that go
    on at the neighborhood level. Citizens must be careful
    of their actions and of what they say, as they are
    being constantly monitored by the block CDR.

    The structure consists of a president, vice-president,
    a treasurer, an organizer, an official responsible for
    the work force, and another for ideological control.
    CDRs all include an important component, referred
    to as the CDR Vigilance and Public Order Front
    (Vigilancia y Orden Público). After the September
    1986 CDR Congress, a special component (front)
    was introduced to assist those young people who neither
    work nor study. This division of the CDR is referred
    to as the Prevention and Education Front.
    This front notifies the police department of all pertinent
    information regarding young people who are
    neither in school nor working.

    CDR characteristics probably vary according to population
    size, prevalence of common crime or acts
    against the state, extremism of the CDR authorities,
    educational level, etc. An important variable is the
    lack of commitment of the rank and file at the local
    level.

    Militancy in CDRs is interchangeable with other organizations
    such as the FMC, the Communist Party,
    or the League of Young Communists. Any militant
    of the Party or of the Youth must show that he or she
    is a member of the CDRs and/or FMC. These last
    two organizations, together with the Party and the
    Youth are the most active at the local level. The statutes
    of the Cuban Communist Party of Cuba, Chapter
    VIII, Article 73, states:

    “The Party guides and directs the work of the mass
    and social organizations, based on the principle of full
    and conscious acceptance of its leadership role and of
    the influence its members and aspirants have in the
    mass organizations, while recognizing the organic independence
    of those organizations.”19


    Within each block, there is one other agent who
    deals indirectly with the CDRs: this person reports
    directly to an officer of the security apparatus of the
    Ministry of Interior. Very rarely are the secret duties
    of this person known to other block citizens or CDR
    officials. In order for a CDR official to be informed
    of the duties of this person, there must be a working
    relationship on a particular case.

    19. As quoted in Ritter (1985, p. 277).
    The organization of the CDRs by sectors and blocks
    follows the national-regional-province-municipalityzone-
    sector-block pyramid structure. The sector controller
    holds a full-time job. They patrol on foot
    since they do not have other means of transportation.
    Their work hours might vary from 9:00 a.m. to as
    late as 11:00 p.m. Most of them do not even live in
    the sectors they patrol. The president of the CDR
    provides all pertinent information to the sector controller.
    Frequently, however, the sector controller
    does not trust the CDR president and usually verifies
    this information with VOP Front Officials.

    If enough evidence of wrongdoing is found regarding
    a particular citizen, the sector controller meets with
    that individual. Three warnings are given to each citizen,
    with the first two given in written form. After
    one warning, the citizen’s file is classified as category
    A; after two warnings, as B. The third warning results
    in the arrest of the citizen and classification of his or
    her file as category C.

    There are national, provincial, municipal, and zone
    meetings for all CDR presidents, who then pass on
    the information to their block officials and citizens.
    The VOP Front consists of people who have shown
    extreme loyalty to the revolution, and who are willing
    to go to great means to discover wrongdoing.
    The background of the Front officials varies from retirees
    to people who have served in international missions.
    The ideological control person usually has a
    college degree.

    As is depicted in Figure 1, the Ministry of Interior
    and the CDRs have parallel structures. Security bodies
    (intelligence and counterintelligence) and police
    back-stop this mass organization. Designation of officials
    for different posts within CDRs, especially for
    being in charge of “vigilance,” are subject to consultation
    with the MININT officer in charge.

    This network in turn is linked to the chiefs of “defense
    zones” and territorial militia, which are the
    lower layer of the so-called “Republic of Cuba’s
    Unique System of Exploration” and the mobilization
    chain for any war action. “Defense zones” are in
    charge of evacuating the civil population and destroying
    cities and towns if the socialist system is in
    danger. These activities are connected to the Ministry
    of Armed Forces.

    There are “Voluntary Brigades of Activists” that are
    mobilized according to instructions of the state security
    apparatus. The Brigades are sometimes called
    into action by the police. They are the direct antecedent
    of the so-called “Brigadas de Respuesta Rápida”
    (Quick Response Brigades) that hold “repudiation
    meetings” in front of the homes of undesirable
    neighbors, sometimes when it is known that they
    plan to leave the island. The Brigades are a sort of
    para-military organization backed by the Cuban authorities
    established for the purpose of harassing and
    fighting—physically sometimes, with sticks, bricks,
    and hammers—dissident neighbors and families.

    The notion of civil society is alien to the policies that
    the Cuban leadership is pursuing at present. The theories
    of “transmission belts” and an “enlightened
    vanguard” suit more closely regime’s goals and
    modus operandi. The essence of civil society lies in
    the possibility that social groups could be autonomous,
    particularly from military and government tutelage
    and control. This is impossible in today’s Cuban
    society. The leadership has a horizontal
    circulation system that allows the same faces and
    names to transfer from government to mass organizations
    to military positions. This revolving system has
    been operating for 36 years.

    The Party, the State and mass organizations are intertwined.
    To claim that Cuban mass organizations represent
    civil society is to deny that the latter has any
    right to exist as an independent force. This is the
    kind of participation Nazi and fascist regimes encourage,
    together with the “personality cult” of the
    leader. The revolutionary leadership and the leader
    himself have designed a totalitarian society; changes
    to the control mechanisms and reforms are attempts
    to strengthen this grip.


    http://lanic.utexas.edu/la/cb/cuba/asce/cuba6/36amaro.fm.pdf
    So you support the arrest of potential criminals?

    The suspension of democracy is codified under the Cuban Constitution.

    People like me and Human Rights Watch apparently.
     
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