There is a time to kill. Keep abortion legal.

One has been BORN (do you actually know what BORN means?) ...and the other hasn't....



IF the fetus was deemed a PERSON it would have all the rights and RESTRICTIONS of other persons.....so it couldn't use the woman's body to sustain it's life without her consent....YOU can't, I can't, the fetus can't, nobody can....

 

So why does an entity need to have been born in order to have rights?

 

States where it is legal:
Arizona
California
Connecticut
Delaware
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Kentucky
Maine
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
Ohio
Tennessee
Utah
Washington
Wisconsin
Wyoming

Source:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-abortion-restrictions-state-by-state/448098/

 

Yes, dear, that's called ...get ready....BEING BORN!! The fetus not only passes through the vagina , a lot of other biological things happen at that time including the umbilical cord (what the fetus is attached with) being cut ...and the fetus becomes independent of the woman.

If you think that fetuses float unattached in women's wombs and then after 9 months just slide out you really need a book on biology or physiology....it isn't as SIMPLE as you think...


You forgot to include : ""No, it's the woman who possesses ALL the power to decide if the fetus lives or not and that is really what bugs you

 

So why does the act of being born grant rights to an entity that previously did not have these rights?

 

Check out the little thing called the Constitution, it says one has to be born to be a person.


If you think that's not correct then you can always address the Supreme Court with your opinion....



Could you explain why you are so against abortion? You seem to think it's fine if Democrats do it....why isn't it fine for everyone? You want Democrats to have more rights than Repubs?

 

You shouldn't rely on laws (or the Constitution) to do your thinking for you. Just because a law says that an entity needs to have been born in order to have rights, it does not mean it (the law) must necessarily be right or just.

 

NO, those states do NOT have unrestricted ELECTIVE abortions....NO they do not but I suppose if you don't know what elective means you will have a problem.


Some ignorant state reps want to shorten the legal time from 23 to 20 weeks to make life harder for women at least that's what your link states....




I believe there should be no restrictions although the COMPROMISE of protecting the fetus after 24 weeks is fine with me.

Canada doesn't have abortion laws and Canadian women don't endure the "joys" of pregnancy just for the "fun" of having an abortion at 8 1/2 months.

Did you think they did!!!!!!????

Oh, and Canada's abortion rate is about the same or slightly lower than ours....

 

The law doesn't do my thinking, I agree with it.

You obviously don't agree with laws or the Constitution...shrug...it rules, you don't


Now, IF the fetus is a person why do you want it to have more rights than anyone else????


Why are you ranting against abortion when you like it for some political party???

 

Appeal to authority. This is a logical fallacy.

 

No intelligent rebuttal.
Yup, in this country we have that thingy that makes us a country and gives us rights.....if you prefer chaos, hang around, Trump will give it to you....

Why are you ranting against abortion when you support it?




WHY do you think a fetus should have more rights than anyone else?
I have asked you that several times and you CAN'T answer

 

Pointing out that you committed a logical fallacy *IS* intelligent rebuttal.

Do you admit that you tried to appeal to authority?

 

Do you admit you can't speak for yourself or come up with a factual and/or logical reply? Or form a good rebuttal using any facts (facts, that includes laws)

WHY do you think a fetus should have more rights than anyone else?


Why are you against abortion?

I have asked you that several times and you CAN'T answer

 

I never said that the fetus has "more rights than anyone else". I do, however, say that abortion amounts to murder.

 

My mistake. The states listed allow abortion until viability. Thanks for pointing that out. But according to my source the below states have no abortion restrictions:
Alaska
Colorado
D.C.
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
Oregon
Vermont

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-abortion-restrictions-state-by-state/448098/

This is also backed up the the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/06/18/us/politics/abortion-restrictions.html

 

Higher rate then whites?

What does that mean...So I checked google (typed in your specific question) because you are not a stupid poster so I must be the ignorant one.

I found this nice article...http://abort73.com/abortion/abortion_and_race A good read.
The facts don't line up..but I am against abortion personally (but I am a man, single father so I don't count) so any argument against it is a good one, despite the race, or reasons..I am also pro choice.

Until i found out what counts as abortion...birth control?

"Most states and reporting areas that collect abortion data now report if an abortion was medical or surgical. Medical abortions are legal procedures that use medications instead of surgery."
https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm

"When a woman ovulates, she can become pregnant. However, the Pill has mechanisms that can cause an abortion before a woman knows that she has conceived. If a sperm does fertilize the egg, the newly conceived baby (zygote) may be transported more slowly through the fallopian tubes because of how they have been altered by the Pill. Thus, the child may not reach the uterus, where he or she needs to implant and receive nourishment for the next nine months. Because the fallopian tubes are changed, the baby may accidentally implant there, causing an ectopic or “tubal” pregnancy, which is fatal to the baby, and can also be life-threatening for the mother."

http://chastityproject.com/qa/do-birth-control-pills-cause-abortions/

So your question makes no since.

 

From your link:

"In the United States, black children are aborted at three times the rate of white children; Hispanic children are aborted at one and a half times the rate. Whatever the intentions of the abortion industry, by functional standards, abortion is a racist institution."

So the answer is yes. Blacks abort their babies 3x more than whites. And Hispanics do it 1 1/2 times more than whites. Both groups vote Democrat more than whites.

So in conclusion, more Democrats are aborting their babies than Republicans, statistically. And I can't in good conscience stand in the way of Democrats murdering their own. I just can't bring myself to go there.

 

Then they don't have restrictions. That's good. There doesn't need to be any (as per my comment on Canada...)

 

Yes, you DO think fetuses have more rights. You insist they are "persons". And I explained that with "personhood" comes restrictions as well as rights.

No person has the right to use another person's body to sustain their own life. NO one can, for instance , force another person to give them a blood transfusion or a new heart.
YOU insist that a fetus person has that right....


Yes, you claim abortion is murder (and your opinion has no weight in law ) but you seem to think it's fine to abort Democrats....so you are for "murder" when it suits your purpose.

 

I never said any of these things. The only point I want to make is that abortion is murder.

 

The answer is yes only if you count the pill as abortion as well from that link.
Which makes no since to the argument unless you are against the pill.

Edit: Instead of the word against, I replace with the word (I cannot fathom right now, so we will go with ("X)) the pill" in a statistical argument for trying to narrow a demographic that has more abortions.

 

No, you didn't say them because you didn't follow through or think through the implications of YOU calling a fetus a "person".

Yes, you DO think fetuses have more rights. You insist they are "persons". And I explained that with "personhood" comes restrictions as well as rights.


Abortion isn't murder. If it is why haven't you called the police to report them?

Why do you think "murdering" Democrats is OK but no one else?

 

Well I'd like to see a statistic on just abortions. Because I don't care about the pill. Sometimes I want to (*)(*)(*)(*) sluts and I don't want them getting pregnant.

Still, I think it's well estsblished that blacks have abortions at a higher rate than anyone and we all know how they vote and what their impact is on the welfare system.

Plus more Republicans are evangelicals who are completely against abortion so it just makes sense that more people having abortions are Democrats. And so far that's what the statistics show, until further evidence is presented to suggest otherwise.

 

1. I never said fetuses are persons.
2. I never said it's ok to murder Democrats.

But feel free to put more things in my mouth.

 

you and every other red blooded male...no argument here, i am pro some sort of male birth control pill...will eliminate alot of problems In my opinion. to underlined #1

to Underlined #2 that is established to be false actually...many times....but who truly cares aside from the ignorant.