There is no statute of limitations for murder...so the question becomes...

If you can't answer the question, just say, "I can't answer that because I have no idea how anyone would be able to suspect a woman of having an abortion or how they would prove she did it. Women would have to be monitored like animals 24/7 to make sure they didn't have an abortion....there's no other way to prove it..."

 

Sure there is a way to prove it. Just subpoena her healthcare records. There are lots of ways to convict someone. They don't even have to be guilty. If they are black, 85% of your case is already made for you.

 

The rest of your post is SO typical of the ignorance and hatred of Anti-Choicers I applaud you for summing it up so well....

 

I am not anti-choice. I am anti-abortion. A woman can choose to keep her legs shut, choose to use birth control or choose to have the baby. Their choice.

There is nothing ignorant about my post. You just cannot deal with reality. All those Perry Mason reruns must have indoctrinated you with the false belief that "Beyond a reasonable doubt" is the modern standard of guilt, and that it must be demonstrated with objective evidence.

 

Just subpoena her healthcare records.!?!?!??! How many criminals do you know who keep records of their illegal activities? Maybe bookies. Not abortionists. Maybe you could give this matter some more thought.

 

And let more of them in legally easier especially work visas, yeah.

 

I see you agree that there is no way to prosecute a crime that no one knows happened....thank you for admitting it with your ramble...

 

and you really think that if abortion were illegal it would show up on her medical records that she has one add to that-that it is impossible to medically tell the difference between an abortion and a D & C and you haven't even got a starting point for an investigation.

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So defiantly anti-choice then, or would you prefer pro-forced birth?

 

The question was retroactive application of a change in the law. Criminals wouldn't need to keep their records. The insurance companies already did when they paid for the abortions.

 

Just randomly go through Insurance company records ? The insurance company would agree to this?






Based on what?

 

no, because you can't back date laws to arrest people, look at the Terri Schiavo where republicans tried to do this and failed

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your not anti-choice, you just want big nanny government to do the choosing

 

Insurance companies wouldn't need to agree to it. That is what a subpoena and search warrant powers are for. Wouldn't be that hard. Planned Parenthood of Wilmington did abortions ergo there is probable cause for the search warrant of them. regardless of the outcome of the search, you then subpoena the insurance records from every insurance company in Delaware that paid a claim for an abortion procedure to Planned Parenthood of Wilmington, and you are off to the races.

 

How convenient for you to leave out of my post :

"Based on what? " Why would they get a subpoena? What reason would they give for a search warrant?
Somebody points at a woman and says, "I accuse her of abortion" and they go with that????????

 

How convenient that you ignored the part about planned parenthood. The providers would be throwing anybody they could under the bus to get immunity or some sort of deal. prosecutors would need an extra warehouse for all the records they would be getting. It isn't like abortion clinics are secret and it take little to nothing to get a search warrant. "I have a credible witness who says...." is about all they need.

 

"I have a credible witness(?) who says...."


Says what?

What did they witness?

 

The US Constitution prohibits the imposition of ex post facto (after the fact) law.

Murder is the wrongful taking of the life of a person and the preborn are not "persons" under the US Constitution. While the death of the "preborn" can be treated as if it was murder it isn't technically murder under the law because the only "person" harmed by the death of the preborn is the woman so the offense is really against woman and not the preborn. We don't prosecute the "victim" which is the woman.

 

Whatever the police/prosecutor said they said/saw/did. I imagine that fly girls will be setting up all their baby daddy's other women too. It is just par for the course. People who kill their babies are inherently selfish. Selfish people do what is best for them. That is a dynamic easily exploited by the po-po

 

by this logic, crimes that have a statute of limitations of a year could be modified on a whim and people arrested left and right for something that wasn't illegal when they did it

 

WHAT did they "see"? Give a specific? Did they observe the abortion taking place? Then they just admitted aiding and abetting and covering up.

I don't know what fly girls are....are they the rich women who have abortions ?


LOL! "Selfish people do what is best for them".....and YOU don't do what's best for you??? Man, that's wacky!

 

Maybe they saw Shaniqupepsicola going into the abortion clinic, maybe they heard Buffy telling Muffy that Dr. Gorn performed her abortion, maybe they just made the whole thing up. Probable cause is just some evidence of wrong-doing. It doesn't take much or else jailhouse snitches wouldn't be snitches.

No I don't always do what is best for me. It is not best for me that I give money to charity instead of dropping it into my brokerage account, but I do it anyway.

 

The bolded is constitutionally barred from occuring.

 

So? It happens anyway. The Constitution only matters to the extent that those with power elect to honor it and prosecutors/judges can ruin your life even without you being convicted of anything.

 

So the doctor that performed an illegal abortion....is going to keep records of it???

 

When has that ever come up before?

 

You're caught in a classic trap that I did months ago, smevins.

Asking a "pro-lifer" like you..."How EXACTLY would you PROVE that a woman had an abortion?"

All of the other "pro-lifers" tried your "They would just prove it is all" or your later "Maybe the doctors will incriminate themselves by keeping records" or "Maybe women who 'committed murder' by having an abortion....will go around town blabbing about it."

Thing is....none of that actually would work. And the rules of evidence would still be against you, since there is NO WAY of PROVING that a woman had an elective abortion..

versus a procedure known as a "therapeutic D&C" which is used to control uterine bleeding often in the case of a miscarriage.

The doctor can claim that....his nurses can claim that....and so can the woman....and the 'Womb Gestapo"...would have no way of proving them liars.