There really is no possibility of the GOP becoming more racially diverse...

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  1. PT Again

    PT Again New Member

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    Your approval of affirmative action is all the proof we need.

    The day the GOP requires test be dumbed down to allow more minorities to "qualify" you may have a point.

    You don't want to see racism from the left therefore you don't....
     
  2. Glock

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    So, did you also show them some of the regular "black crime" threads started here? Or are they only getting "one side" of the story as usual?

    Why don't you show them some of these quotes from your fellow conservatives.

    Let's see if you will respond in kind.....

    BTW - this is just the tip of the iceberg, there's many more like that....
     
  3. Glock

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    And yet, we have another one that doesn't understand what AA is. Why don't you go look at the numbers and come back to tell me how many WHITE women benefit from it.

    If that is your rebuttal, I suggest you try again.
     
  4. PT Again

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    It's also misogynistic......

    Equalizing the playing field by LOWERING the bar does no one any good.

    Carry on
     
  5. Glock

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    You're still proving that you know nothing about AA.
     
  6. Glock

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    I guess great minds think alike........

     
  7. RedWolf

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    Except I've already given you examples.
     
  8. Glock

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    Mitt Romney and Spike Lee have and account here?

    Look, I'm not trying to play a semantics game, but do you really think the examples you provided is on the same level as this?

     
  9. Kurmugeon

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    Am I somehow responsible for the Threads created by others? Why? Because the general subject area of the Black Crime Epidemic?

    Does that mean that every thread created about Ferguson is the same in outlook, information presented, and insightful, or just plain invective OP?

    I am responsible for what I personally write, and nothing more. Even so, sometimes I say or write things that I later regret or retract.

    Often things that I say are taken out of context, or selectively edited in quotation to deceive and propagandize the meaning... I suspect you are doing that with the quotes by both Trinnity and Smartmouthwoman here, because having read many of their posts, I know them to both be basically decent people. I don't know ShadowX.

    Regardless, just because on the particular subject of getting rid of Affirmative Action, I might be in agreement with the views of David Duke and the remaining few members of the KKK, that does not make my position motivated and reasoned by the same set of facts, beliefs and desired outcomes. Nor does it somehow make me a member of the KKK, as the Left is so often guilty of claiming.

    A similar example can be shown the often demagogued subject of Global Warming and Alternative Energy Systems.

    I will openly state that I believe that the Global Climate is changing, and that for the last few centuries, (though not the last couple of decades) it has been changing more rapidly than usual for the Earth. Some might try to twist that into claiming that as a well educated scientist and engineer, I support AGW, I do NOT!

    Furthermore, I have spent most of my free time over the last 14 years working on developing alternative, sustainable energy systems. Some might Assume that means I also support Obama's investments in Solar Voltaic and Lithium Ion Batteries for All-Electric Cars... I do NOT! We're not really even sure which direction the climate is going, and it is scientifically highly unlikely that humans are a significant contributor to that change, much less the primary cause!

    For that honesty and accurate scientific analysis I get called by the Lefties a "Climate Dennier"... so much for honest science... Go Figure.

    As a highly educated and experienced engineer/scientist who as made finished, complete, practical energy systems, I recognize the futility of Solar Voltaic, because of the less than unity REIA and the extreme toxic and mutagen hazard of widely deployed, multi-tonne lithium battery packs.

    My opposition to Solar Voltaic and All-Electric Cars does NOT mean that I think we should just continue down the same path of our current gasoline piston type of personal transportation systems. Nor is my opposition based on profiting from being part of the petro-chem industry, or being a wealthy "Conservative".

    I have my own concepts on how we should be pursuing alternative energy and transportation energy storage mechanisms, based on good Engineering, Science, and Safety!

    Once again, the Lefties on this forum twist around and miss represent my ideas to discredit, instead of giving an honest and open minded consideration that there might be an even better way!

    Through these sorts of experiences, on this forum and others, I have come to see MOST of the American Left as now a completely corrupt, ignorant, self-serving, and fascistic group of EVIL people who should be opposed in almost all that they do!

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  10. RedWolf

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    I'm not digging through PF archives for random comments made and I certainly wouldn't expect anyone else to either. But are you seriously going to deny that those comments that were made by democrats weren't racist? And I don't care about the severity of the comment and I doubt that the people that it was said about care either. Racism is racism regardless.
     
  11. Glock

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    So, I take that as a "no" to my question then.
     
  12. Rainbow Crow

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    You keep quoting me there, I was just pasting something from urban dictionary as a joke. Also, some of that is not necessarily racist, like the part about a girl trying to make daddy mad by dating black guys, I thought it was quite funny.
     
  13. Glock

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    That's my point...you would have to dig to find liberal racism (if you find it here at all), but conservative racism is present on a daily basis.

    Which is to say, that when someone says "both the left and right are racist" to me is a cop out, to give a pass to conservatives.
     
  14. Kurmugeon

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    You have received a very thoughtful and thorough answer.

    If you choose to ignore it, and twist / propagandize the meaning of that answer, instead of giving it proper, open minded consideration, then it reflects poorly on your posting personae, not mine.

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  15. Glock

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    .....annnd you don't consider what you just said as being racist?

    Maybe that's where the disconnect is on this forum.
     
  16. Rainbow Crow

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    Well TBH I forgot what I had even written there since, again, it was a cut-and-paste. I corrected my statement. I guess the part about the brother Tyrone is pretty racist but overall I just thought it was a funny quote.
     
  17. Glock

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    That's your opinion, however, I do not agree. The reason being is you didn't present both sides of the conversation. I'm finding that is happening more and more around here.

    I'm almost 99.9% sure that if you presented the quotes I replied to you, they would have been more appalled than any post in this thread.

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    It seems stereotypes and racism usually is....when you are not on the receiving end.
     
  18. Rainbow Crow

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    It's still funny even if it hurts someone's feewings. You should see the stuff that white people (or Chinese or Koreans) get in Japan. You just have to laugh (*)(*)(*)(*) off sometimes. Sticks and stones and all that.
     
  19. Glock

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    I have a hunch that it pales in comparison to being a "mud shark"
     
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    So if you're a Black poster, under affirmative action, you'd win this argument; not on your ability, but your skin color.

    Sure; it's fair.
     
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    Blacks don't vote Republican for obvious reasons - the party has a lot of questionable figures and make racial gaffes, the black community is poorer than whites and so naturally prefers redistributive policy, and they have similar notions about the GOP that you do - they see it as preferring white men.

    I don't see how any of that is insulting to blacks. Nor do I agree with some that laissez-faire economic policy is racist. Their social policy is questionable, and that needs reform.
     
  22. Glock

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    I guess you will never know, that's kinda how AA works. You can make generalizations, but unless you are the one doing the hiring.....

    BTW, a more accurate generalization would be "if I were a white woman poster, under affirmative action"....but tell me some more how much you like blacks....
     
  23. RedWolf

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    Right. I suppose when liberals say on a daily basis that the republican party is the party of the old white people they're not really being racists. I gave you examples. If you don't like them then that's your problem but don't pretend to me that just because I didn't search through PF for comments that democrats aren't racists too.
    And saying "both the left and right are racist" is not a cop out, it's reality.
     
  24. Rainbow Crow

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    And yet, on PF, you can prove one, but not the other.
     

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