There really is no possibility of the GOP becoming more racially diverse...

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  1. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    Riiight, what is the "race relations" that my "ilk" sucks at? Calling out blatant racist posts when "your ilk" does nothing, unless it is about whites, which at that point it's like the blitzkrieg around here? Is that the "race relations" that should be the norm around here?
     
  2. REPUBLICRAT

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    Why is it that so many conservatives focus their anger over being labeled racists on those who point out the racism displayed by fellow conservatives rather than the conservatives who display it? If I were a non-racist conservative, I would be upset with the racist conservatives who make me look bad more than the folks who point their racism out. It makes one think that the ones who react by lashing out at those who point out racism do so because they totally agree with the racists and will deflect criticism rather than defend the racism. Why? Because racists are cowards. They are actually ashamed of their own views. Either that, or they are scared of how people will react to them. Cowards.
     
  3. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    It's kinda weird...they spend all their energy trying to argue how they aren't racist, only to end up looking more racist.
     
  4. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    My wife is Hispanic. Her family has documents, photos, degerotypes, and paintings of family members going back 12 generations in the Alamosa Colorado area, back to a date before the founding of Jamestown. Her native American Pueblo heritage goes back centuries before that, beyond recall. Another branch is Iroquois Indian.

    In her case, being Hispanic not only means she is here legally, but also that are no legal records of her ancestors immigration to America, because her family was here before there was ANY form of written language Government. She IS the land.

    This concept by some, that Hispanic "Probably" means illegal, is silly and a bit annoying.

    This form of racial bigotry, usually seen in Lefties, is mirrored by another, The idea that ALL Blacks in America suffer from the onus of Slavery, and therefore deserve "Slavery Reparations". In fact, some Black Americans Ancestors came to these shores long after American Black Slavery was stopped by the American Civil War.

    The Ancestors of SOME current Black Americans, were actually on the Continent of Africa, capturing, enslaving and selling their neighboring African Tribes, to American Slave ships, but also to slave purchasers from all over the rest of the world, during the time that American Slavery Existed.

    The idea that you can somehow "See" by skin color, whether someone had ancestors who were Black American Slaves is preposterous.

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  5. Gatewood

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    I've read TheRoot for many years now. It was a full blown and expensive to maintain e-zine dedicated to Blacks and their issues (mostly political issues) created by the supposed politically and ideologically neutral The Washington Post back around when -- mysteriously -- candidate Barack Obama announced his run for the presidency. Ironically that same supposedly politically and ideologically neutral The Washington Post -- mysteriously -- saw fit to keep women issues subject matter relegated to a tiny little back water blog posting feature on their Slate e-zine enterprise; almost as if The Washington Post's owners and editors decided from the very get-go to begin slamming candidate Hillary Clinton in favor of Barack Obama BEFORE the first frigging primaries debates started between the two . . . which indeed is precisely what occurred. So much for NON-BIAS where such things are concerned, eh?

    Now it get's interesting. You see, back then TheRoot was a tiny e-zine (and it still is), operated at a loss in comparison the Slate. So The Washington Post owners/editors decided to front a major feed directly from Slate to its 'sister' ezine, TheRoot, any time that TheRoot had what they considered to be a wonderful and brilliant article promoting all aspects of candidate Barack Obame; which was all the damn time.

    But you see there was this obviously aggressively hate-filled and racist leftwing writer connected to TheRoot called Melissa Harris-Perry who one day wrote such a racist filled diatribe about why Barack Obama was God's gift to re-wire the thought processes of a RACIST White America and about how proud she would be as a Black woman to have her Black daughter know that finally the racist United States had put a Black man into the presidency that . . . even good leftwingers (who nominally LIVED for Black issues articles) had had enough, and The Washington Post then -- mysteriously -- eliminated that premium articles feed from Slate to TheRoot, resorting instead to using a side bar link with a tiny little articles header that anyone could reasonably be expected to overlook.

    So don't purport to tell fellow posters that Black dominated forums and what-not do not contain vile examples of radicalized racist White-hating Black writers generated articles from time to time nor Black commentaries posters who espouse racism against Whites as a matter of course. At least don't do so expecting to be believed by anyone who's ever bothered to actually keep track of such things.

    What our leftwingers seem fundamentally incapable of comprehending is that the average Black or Latino (or whatever) population is essentially going to break down into the same general numbers of saints and sinners as any other population. This notion that leftwingers cherish that you won't find a wretched hive of scum and villainy inside any minority publication anywhere . . . is sheerest fantasy and outright race or ethnicity based pandering. You want to have your stomach turned? Go read the commentary sections of any basic politically oriented TheRoot article. You'll finds loads of hatred and racism there . . . directed against Whites as a matter of course. Oh -- and hey -- enjoy.
     
  6. goober

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    Someone doesn't understand statistics....
    There will always be black people, Asians and Hispanics who vote for Republicans, who identify as conservative, but the overwhelming numbers will come down the other way, until there is a defining political event that changes that.

    The Civil Rights Movement was the defining political event that switched people of color from the GOP to the Democrats, and the GOP amplified that with the Southern Strategy, which they continue to employ to this very day.
    Want to know how long a defining political event lasts?
    The defining political event for Irish Americans is the Great Famine from around 1840, a million people starve to death and a government that did nothing, sure there are Irish Americans who vote Republican, but most of them still vote Democratic, because they believe that a government should not let people starve to death, which is more of a conservative value, if they don't work they starve.
    Voting patterns form early, the biggest indicator of how you will vote in November, is how you voted last November, going back to how you voted the first time. I know, some people change, but mostly they don't.
    Which is why incumbents get re-elected even though congress has single digit approval ratings.
    Most of the people of color who voted for Obama will vote the Democratic ticket for the rest of their lives, unless the GOP does something amazing, like nominate a black candidate for the presidency, it's one thing to have Herman Cain in the running for a week or two, if they had powered past that, and nominated Cain, and found a Hispanic woman for VP, and they had called for amnesty and a fast path to citizenship, the numbers would change...but they aren't going to do that are they?


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  7. REPUBLICRAT

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    Exactly. The best way to curb the painting of their party with a broad brush on racism is to shun the racists in their party. I can only think of one reason why they wouldn't do that. That being that they agree with racist views in question and are too cowardly to admit how they really feel. Their answer to this dilemma? Act as if none of the racist things said by those in their party are racist and those who point out the racism are in the wrong. Racists speak to each other in code so as to leave the slightest doubt about whether it's actually racist. Why? Because they're cowards. Let it be known how you really feel. I mean, if you feel that way, you must believe you are correct. So why try to hide it? Cowards.
     
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  8. Glock

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    Every word you posted has been proven in this thread. Well one poster did suggest that this was a white supremacy forum, due to the fact that he visits "black" forums routinely...
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure thing Glock, your ilk keeps them on the plantation.

     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again with your broad statements and pulling out Stormfront as some kind of weapon. This (*)(*)(*)(*) gets old.....since the Demos for the past 40 years own the black vote how come all the failings exist?

     
  11. arborville

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    The plantation garbage gets older.
     
  12. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry, History and actions of the progressive for 40+ years with policy proves otherwise.So, show me arborville?

     
  13. Dale Cooper

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    Bottom line: The more people puke up the race card, the more racist people become.

    Nobody gives a fat rip who is black and who is white.

    If people want to jump onto a forum where nobody sees or cares what color you are and rip into people because your ancestors didn't get treated right, go for it. Keep the world racist. I couldn't care less. It's your life. If you want to be miserable, it's on you. Your choice. Your problem.
     
  14. arborville

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    What's the name of the site? Witnessing enough farcical false equivalency has left me with the need to judge for myself.

     
  15. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who are you talking to? You and I have never had this conversation. Since I am not a Republican or Democrat bring it on, I want to show how your progressives policy makers have (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up this nation when it comes to race.

    Your ilk owns it, not me.

     
  16. arborville

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    Show your proof.
     
  17. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure I will but I asked you first....see this is how a debate works. Can you show me arborville? POTUS and both houses owned it for two years in the current Administration......crickets.

     
  18. Glock

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    No, we never had a conversation about history before....

     
  19. Kurmugeon

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    But the Black-Victims and their enablers in the Lefties WANT and Demand that you care... or else... or else they attempt to ostricize and demonize you in any and all ways.

    That's their game plan, mode of operation and pathway to more power and money. It is a Mercenary outlook and process.

    This thread, and all of the other threads by the OP posters on a similar vein are designed to try to get White American instilled with a sense of racial guilt and working to try to appeasement racial concessions and preferential treatment "Buy" Black American "Friends".

    They are getting increasingly upset, because the GOP, and largely the independent voter base, no longer care to have Black American "Friends", because of the cost, humiliation, False sense of guilt, and ludicrous demands and accusations of the Black Community and their Leftie enablers.

    I would say to the Cult of Black Victimology:

    [video=youtube;t3mC4485Ue0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3mC4485Ue0[/video]


    The world will go on without You! Ducky, so give it a rest!

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  20. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You call that a conversation? 1 sentence, Glock, you are becoming intellectually dishonest.

     
  21. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    Um, that conversation was about history and its effects on black people. Its interesting you only want to focus on the last 40 years, but want to totally ignore the past until 1965.

    And you call me intelligently dishonest?
     
  22. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes I did and you are. Nice deflection and you damn well know in this thread is the first time you and I have had a convo head to head. One liners is now a conversation, please push your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) elsewhere. I wanted to focus on the voters right act 1965 and forward when it comes to progressive policy

    Sorry, I will not take the sins of my ancestors but will stand on my character and actions when it come to race.

    Are ready to defend progressive policy? Bring it on.



     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As with me, go do your own research.....you do have google?


     
  24. Glock

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    In other words, you want to have a scripted discussion, instead of an actual debate.

    It really doesn't surprise me you want to ignore the events prior to 1965, even when the events AFTER 1965 were in direct response to earlier history.

    Nobody is asking you to take on any sins of your ancestors, but to at least acknowledge it plays a big part to what we see today in society.

    Obviously, you can't see that.
     
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    Listen, I want a conversation for a generation that I live in and have somewhat control of and been exposed to......is that so hard? Jezez Christ, so much baggage with you. Let me ask you something, the minority friends I have never carry such baggage, why do you think that is?

    I would like to also point out that my minority friends for the most part dislike the government assigned title, why is that?

     

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