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I just gave you the definition of a "faith school" in the UK, and I am correct according to this definition. Yet you continually try to distort the facts and redefine words. You have no authority to make any such demands. You are the problem here, not me.

 

Certainly seems to be the case. Also people arguing on the definition of words instead of the issues themselves doesn't help

 

No you did not, a faith school in the UK has a legal definition, see the Ugov/site. If you get your information from wiki and it is wrong do not come crying to me. Again the issue you have is that you do not live here and do not understand.

It is not a faith school as defined by the UK government, you simply did not have the knowledge. The point I am trying to highlight is that people like you think they know so much from internet videos. You do not. You believe a march is police being thrown out of an area, you did not understand what a faith school is. End of.

 

Again show a PF member who supports sedition. The issue was evidence you gave as a video which lied.

 

I decided to check your quote. In it the woman says that she was giving the 2015 numbers which were the latest she had

This is confirmed by your article

https://www.thelocal.se/20170304/fake-news-minister-does-u-turn-on-comments-about-swedens-sex-crimes

so no not fake news. They had gone down in 2015 and then went up again to the new norm - a norm which came about due to the more strick accounting for rape in Sweden.

 

The video didn't lie

 

Any joy with the PF member supporting sedition?
The video reports to be taken from a faith school, it was not. That is a lie. I discussed faith schools with you in another thread, so you were aware of the lie.
Do you support faith schools?

 

It is a faith academy that falls under the category of "Faith School" according to your government website

2. Faith schools
Faith schools have to follow the national curriculum, but they can choose what they teach in religious studies.

Faith schools may have different admissions criteria and staffing policies to state schools, although anyone can apply for a place.

Faith academies
Faith academies don’t have to teach the national curriculum and have their own admissions processes.

 

Now you are changing the name and showing even greater ignorance!

 

I support faith schools provided they don't engage in sedition.

 

Why and how?

 

So you are part of the problem, you want your religion taught to children too young to understand. Your problem is not barbaric religions but the ones you do not like.

Because you are now calling the Mosque a Faith Academy without any knowledge of what that is! Again you do not understand the UK!

 

I would have thought all schools in England would be need to live up to certain requirements. That is certainly the case in Scotland where from time to time Independent schools are closed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-26294473

 

That is correct, the problem was the use of a single data point to determine a trend. You might recognise the tactic from its common application by Global Warming deniers.

I raised this at the time (in this very thread I believe) and I'll see whether I can find the post for you.

Her quote was that the figure was "going down going down going down", but she only used a single data point to justify it. So even on a face value assessment of her comment, it was clearly misleading.

The change of accounting method occurred in 2005, and the trend is steadily upward since then.

My beef with Sweden is that the authorities are manipulating data and data collection to prioritise political correctness over liberal values. Protection of women from sexual assault and protection of LGBT are both considered "right" in a liberal society. Manipulating data to avoid talking about the issue so letting abuses continue must therefore be "wrong".

I am furious over the media's apparent collusion with this, just because it gives them something to bash Trump with.

 

Scotland was trying to get the banning of all faith schools but unfortunately the Catholics would have none of it

 

It didn't lie technically, I have told you this before. Now the London Central Mosque is part of the Islam Cultural Centre. The Islam Cultural Centre provides educational services particularly the advertised "Al-Qalam Weekend School" that takes place at the King Fahad Academy.
From the video, it is like students from a Catholic School going to the Church/Chapel area of the school to be indoctrinated with sedition against the host nation by the preacher.

 

In this particular case, its a Sunday "school" so it is not regulated. Apparently they can grant GSCE qualification in RE, but I don't think that's the same type of regulation (Army cadets and suchlike can do this too).

What was being taught in those classrooms (lets not use "school" anymore because for some unfathomable reason defining a school has become the key issue) was clearly problematic. It is more a concern for me that the classroom is not a "school" because then it can't be regulated. I don't think there is anything anyone can do to control what is being taught in that classroom every Sunday to British children

 

No it technically lies by claiming to be from a faith school, stop wriggling out of it. The title gives a false impression.

Right so now you have come clean and admitted what we are seeing there is an adult type of Sunday School from 2007. Appalling stuff being taught, which is why the government has taken action against radical preachers and the spotlight is on the radical mosques that teach this ****.

 

Yes you can try and find it but it is not infrequent that the figures people have are from the last year.

No it was down in 2015. There has only been one additional year since 2016. The figures dipped by 12% in 2015 and then went up by 16% in 2016. It is one year and no big difference. What got me interested initially was because I knew before that anti muslim extremists (not saying you are one!) had used that claiming it meant the Muslims had brought it.

I have seen no evidence of that. Sweden is probably the most strict country in the world in protection from sexual harassment.

and as I said, nowhere more so than in Sweden.

I have seen no evidence of that. The reality is that there is no discernible increase, Sweden has probably the strictest laws on the planet and I can see no reason to make a song or dance about this suggesting there has been a big increase when there has not including blaming that on Muslims if it is not simply more Muslim baiting. As I said it is not uncommon for people to be slow in getting the information. Have a go at her for that if you must but I cannot see anything else. There is no obvious rise in the rates given now for the three year period.

Seriously with everything that is going on in the world you are furious at one woman giving the previous years statistics. Yes, a problem for Trump supporters. If that is the context then possibly she also was furious at the suggestion that Muslims were raping all of Sweden, particularly so as the last results she had were that they were going down. That may have made her a bit emotional which is why she said (hopefully) down down down.

 

I guess it would be like a video entitled "Christians teach hate in High School" that showed a Wesbo sunday school meeting. I say High School because I do not the US definitions of schools, nor do I pretend to.

 

Clean about what? You are suggesting that it isn't that bad because of the grey area of whether the ICC educational programs fall under a particular government definition.

This video is more clear for your sensitive and somewhat ridiculously particular complex with definitions:



So what do you have to say about this?

 

Unlike you I have made myself perfectly clear, ban the teaching of all religions to children. That is the best way to ensure tolerance, take the crap away from impressionable kids. This is how we will beat fundamentalism, how do you propose to do it?

 

And this one is a beauty for you:

 

Close down all Islamic schools and send the kids to multi-faith schools.

 

Ban them all.