third-world immigrants are DISPLACING young Americans

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    You seemed to agree with my thread about gay marriage.
    Obviously everyone cannot agree on everything. The same people will praise some of my posts, and despise others.

    Those who are "disgusted" at any mention of racial differences, are the real biggotted intolerant ones. That site in no way promoted violence or mistreatment towards other people based solely on race.
     
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    The so-called immigration problem from South of the Border is mainly due to two factors.

    Businesses such as fruit farms, meat packing plants needed the cheaper labor, thus hired such workers, knowing full well that they did not have the legal papers to remain in USA. Secondly of course American politicians from federal to state, to local levels did not want to rock the boat. They turned a blind eye to this issue until the recent public outcry. 15 - 20 Million South Americans did not just come thru the border overnight. It happened over a period of 2 decades or more.

    Now that Americans have used these people for their labor, they feel its time to get rid of them.
     
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    .Blame the Democrats for this.As obama is using them as votes.Democrats are the main reason there even coming here.They know there gullible,weak minded and easily persuaded

    That not entirely true about "Businesses such as fruit farms, meat packing plants" use them. Ilegals have held jobs from construction,resuraunt,manifacturing to law enforcement.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/jun/illegal-immigrant-works-years-police-officer
     
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    Young Americans without marketable skills, even liberal arts college grads, will have to experience very tough times before they develop awareness and consciousness. Not all of them are going to make it.
     
  5. Anders Hoveland

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    Many public universities have instituted their own form of socialism: they raise tuition on students from middle class families to subsidise financial aid to all those "disadvantaged minority" (hispanic) students. 1 out of 3 hispanics in California lives below the poverty line. And probably another third can barely afford to pay rent.

    Here are the comments from one woman on another forum about what immigration has been doing to California:

    "CA has become a Hellhole; years ago,it used to be great.Not now.Now,it is Hell,and it’s also a huge rat race.That’s why i left. We did feel like we were invaded,for sure. I’m so glad I left,yes,I wish I had left years before.Oregon is very poor,but the people are a lot nicer,human,and like to make friends.You do not have to be rich [referring to the cost of housing from the overcrowding]... and there is much more community in Oregon. Unfortunately, a lot of Californians have also moved to Oregon,en mass, trying to escape the unaffordable price of housing, and it’s very crowded now. We had to fight,pass laws,to keep big developers out,to avoid converting Oregon into subdivisions and concrete, like CA did."
     
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    Smarmy Turd Worlders of Color & Cover & their bratty spoiled kids think the American Dream is theirs & theirs alone and that it's only a matter of Time befor White Folks are relegated to the "Back of the Bus" if they get to ride at all .
     
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    Young adults are unable to begin their life and find a decent job. If they go to university, tuition is much higher because the schools have to pay for all the other children of immigrants, most of whom are considered low income and eligible for special scholarships and financial assistance. It is becoming more difficult to be accepted into the medical schools, especially in California. California's population has dramatically increased while the availability of places in the states medical schools has not changed.

    Here is a look at what young adults are dealing with:
    http://politicalcalculations.blogspot.com/2011/10/plight-of-teens-and-young-adults-from.html

    The truth is that young adults are being displaced by immigrants and the children of immigrants! This is the REAL cause of their trouble. People keep blaming the economy, but do not realise that immigration is the main reason for the economic trouble. Unprecedented immigration into the western countries is what precipitated a housing crisis! All the overcrowding and job competition made housing unaffordable. The reason people took out loans that they could not afford was because housing prices had gone up so much. More people = more expensive cost of living.
     
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    I guess Carter could not envision all that when he forced through a law making it illegal for banks to deny large mortgage loans based on income considerations in order to help/prop up poor blacks.
     
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    Illegals holding law enforcement positions? How is that possible.
     
  10. Anders Hoveland

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    The high immigration levels are displacing blacks. Many blacks are staging anti-illegal immigrant demonstrations.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gRvoX3hU2w&feature=related"]Black Americans Fight the Illegal Alien Invasion! - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcmjPgyN36g&feature=related"]BLACKS RISE UP AND FIGHT THE ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION!! - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0yDsEFJzfE&feature=related"]ILLEGAL ALIENS AND THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF BLACK AMERICA - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Sadly, there are heartless humans who wish nothing better than to see them leave and return to the hell that they wish so dearly to avoid.
     
  12. Anders Hoveland

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    No one is arguing that Mexico is not an unimaginable hell for a large portion of its people. But most of those poor mexicans need to take some responsibility for their own predicament for having too many babies! The country of Mexico (much of it is desert) was never meant for 114 million people. If the USA lets them in, they are just going to keep breeding out of control and cause the same problem in the north.
     
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    Not most of it. Central Mexico is a fertile valley, and Southern Mexico is very tropical. The desert is only found in the North. But anyway, I disgress

    You know, I would much rather if the USA would let them in and actually treated them like human beings so they could stop working the farms so the need to have large families would disappear
     
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    I would much rather the mexican government treated it's citizens like human beings and that mexicans would hold their (*)(*)(*)(*) protests and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) fests in their own (*)(*)(*)(*) country.

    I would much rather the catholic church would tell the morons that follow it to use birth control.
     
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    Let us just take a look at the correlation between the presence of non-whites and unemployment in the USA by state:

    The states with the fewest non-whites are, in this order, West Virginia (#1), Vermont (#2), North Dakota (#3), and New Hampshire (#4).

    North Dakota (#1), New Hampshire (#4), and Vermont (#5) are all amongst the five states with the lowest unemployment rate in the country.

    New Hampshire, 5.3% unemployment
    North Dakota, largest non-white group is American Indians at 5.6%, 3.5% unemployment rate
    Vermont, 96.2% white, 5.6% unemployment
    West Virginia, 5.6% non-white, 8.2% unemployment

    The higher unemployment rate is West Virginia can probably be explained by the fact that the state is very mountainous, and many families are relatively isolated from the towns. The state has also traditionally been reliant on coal mining, which has been badly damaged by recent increased environmental regulations.
     
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    The problem may be that, in many regions, the young have been displaced out of many of the jobs they once did a generation ago. I will put it to you this way: where you live, do you ever see any 18 year olds working at gas stations? Do you ever see teenagers mowing lawns? Is your newspaper delivered to you by a boy on a bicycle route? Do you see beautiful university-age girls helping construction crews on the side of the road? Are many of the waitresses under the age of 25 ? If the answer is no, there's the problem. Some people have become so used to this reality that they do not even recognise that anything is wrong. Then they wonder why their young adult children do not seem to want to find a job...

    The options of teens and young adults without training or advanced education is much more limited now than it used to be. Only the worst jobs are left. Even picking fruit is often no longer an option for teens because the immigrants have a monopoly on those jobs. When a young adult is faced between the options of being homeless or working in an unpleasant fast food restuarant for pitiful wages, he is much more likely to choose homelessness.

    http://www.cis.org/teen-unemployment
    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/jobs-248664-summer-immigration.html
     
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    I think there's another side to the problem that people like OP don't want to address. Your kids are bums. Or a lot of them are. I'll be honest that I'm one of the people who went to college and still ended up doing low-wage stuff. However, I've seen the white kids who have it so hard. They don't work. I see them spend hours texting rather than working. Tell them to clean up a back room, and they'll duck into a corner to text. Need something done, they'll start it, then take a break the instant your back is turned. So to say that the issue is simply that immigrants are taking over for teens is untrue -- in many cases, the kids lose because they don't do much once they get a job. It's one thing to earn your money, it's another thing to treat a work schedule as multiple choice and spend the work day playing around and texting. When Native-born Americans are losing to immigrants, it's easy to say that it's about the immigrants. It's a lot harder to point out the lack of work ethic in much of the American labor force.
     
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    The question is whether this lack of motivation is the youngsters themselves or the jobs available. Perhaps some people lose their motivation to work when the pay is so low, they get treated like crap, and the job has no chance of advancement. Were job conditions always like this?

    And if it is the young that have changed, what caused it?
     
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    Americans can't afford to have babies anymore


    So it appears that if Americans can't afford to produce more children, the country will just have to look outside to other countries for replacements. After all, the U.S. has a lot of old people who need to be taken care of. Who's going to work for low pay taking care of all the old people?
     
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    Perhaps the thread title should instead state "third-world immigrants are FILLING THE VACUUM created by young Americans"
     
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    It seems like more of a chicken and egg type of issue.
    Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
    Is immigration causing American women to have fewer babies, or is it that American women are not having babies and that is what is creating the vacuum which immigration is filling? Probably a little bit of both. I'm sure the two sort of feed into each other, depending on your perspective.
     
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    You seem to be referring to population while I was referring to filling jobs.

    But if it's true, Americans can't afford to have babies, then they should either put off having them until they can afford to provide for them or refrain from having them. With more people than jobs a gradual population reduction wouldn't be bad, and that might even make employers have to compete with one another for workers who would then be able to demand higher wages, reducing government spending on poverty and unemployment which could instead be used to provide better care for the post productive years of our ageing population and those physically/mentally incapable of providing their own support.
     

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