THIS IS MY PRESIDENT

Nation-building need not concern us, and hasn't really for quite some time. Keeping the Taliban off balance and out of power is a worthy objective since they provided the safe haven from which we were attacked last time.

 

Our children or grandchildren will have to go back after we are attacked again. A sustainable low-cost low-risk presence would have been preferable.

 

You blame Trump for Biden’s screw up so…

 

At this point, Biden could hide his own Easter eggs.

 

I disagree. On 21 August, 2017 Trump said the withdrawal from Afghan will be and must be slow and steady as a quick pull out would create a vacuum that would be filled by Issis and other insurgents.

Biden did a quick withdrawl and now he has issis and insurgents running crazy. Plus Da Trumpsta had conditions like if you harm one American I will personally push the button that will send a rocket right up your ass. (See the Iranian generals parts spilled all over the airport a couple years ago)

Stupid Xoe F ed the whole thing up.

 

….but…but…he would never find them.

 

Good grief y'all...

I don't expect leftists to understand anything whatsoever to do with why wars are fought, as I don't expect anything from then in terms of being informed.

But I do expect a bit more from conservatives and Republicans.

The purpose of war - is simply to be at war. Post WW II, every war or conflict has been part of the Establishment's STRATEGY OF TENSION.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Strategy_of_tension

The main target of a strategy of tension is the public opinion, to manipulate votes, created a casus belli to legitimate a war, to call for a strong leader or roll out mass surveillance and denounce peacemakers as 'unpatriotic'. False flag terrorist attacks are just the tip of the iceberg of possible measures to achieve these goals. In fact any scare tacticwill do.

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There are no "Republican wars, or Democrat wars", there are only Establishment wars.

The messiness of it is only a benefit.

 

You lost your chances, President Trump was not reinstated on Friday, Aug 13, so Biden is still your president.
No doubt Trump knows how to speak and how to convince gullible Americans, much better than Biden.
This is my answer to presidential tweet:
https://mobile.twitter.com/zalek/status/1431303510860107779

 

By having a presence, we make ourselves the target. One little incidence with an American soldier and it blows up again. Let the Russians or Chinese be the next target. Afghanistan is
hell hole that keeps on giving ... cheapest thing in the long run is fund the Taliban/Isis civil war and let them kill each other off.

 

The Chinese won't do that. They'll go over with mining contracts and cut a deal to mine their resources.

 

The decision to withdraw was unsound in any form.

 

They will attack us, not the Russians or Chinese.

 

And we can do that with strategic air attacks from outside Afghanistan. No reason to have boots on the ground.

 

Nope. The ground presence stiffens the spine of our allies and provides the close intel and targeting to achieve maximum impact from the air.

 

Big D war. Got it.

Clearly, you are purposefully missing the point. Question asked, who lost afghanistan. Ansered. Obama. Why ignore that? Attempting to suggest a condition that factually you cannot demonstrate, ie the assertion "the us population", is fabricated and only your opinion. And to be fair, it isn't even your opinion, it was the democratic party talking point for the past 12 years. Brava on correct absorption.

You fail in the history lesson as well.The purpose of the withdrawal in Vietnam was to bolster support in China for the US, and attempt to drive a wedge between them and Russia (worked) at a catastrophic cost to this nation. The genocide that ensued was the direct result of the elite being greedy at the cost on tens of millions of lives lost to their greed. Let us at least hope that 10s of millions won't be lost because of Biden's capitulation to China who want Afghanistan for their own benefit and to be allowed to rape afghanistan for their natural resources.

Further, you fail to understand the difference in intent. Strategically, holding a foothold in Afghanistan was, and obviously still is, a necessary evil if we (the US) want to staunch radical islam. The spread of 7th century culture and its brutality must be stopped, (Something that Germany has so wrongly introduced and is now actively looking for help in disposing of btw).

To put a fine point on it, no, the US didn't start the war in afghanistan. The war was already raging when Bush thought it necessary to do more than Clinton had in trying to enforce peace there. (But then, that really was when democrats in this country felt Russia was still a threat to the US)

What I blame Biden et al for is being remarkably stupid. Incompetent is to light a word to use to describe their purple evil. They literally sought to pull out the troops to a celebration from the US population, never considered the consequences of leaving folks stranded there, (much like Carter in that respect) and were set for a victory lap while the country of Afghanistan burned to the ground. A condition that they knew would happen, and publicly pulled their support for the Afghan Army while doing it. It is no wonder that the army in Afghanistan collapsed entirely. Why would they have stood up? Biden wasn't going to continue to support them.

What is entirely ridiculous then, are folks, like you, who actually don't know, or appreciate the history of this conflict, and are all too eager to whitewash the facts so you can enjoy the party Biden is throwing to celebrate his "victory" here. Utterly laughable.

 

And the Afghan tribes will fight over who owns the land the mines are located on and the mines will shut off and on
and the Chinese will give up. The trouble is that Afghanistan was never a country and was never meant to be a country.

 

Bless your heart. You think the Afghans are emotionally invested in keeping a US puppet government running. The fact that
we spent hundreds of billions propping up an Afghan government that fell apart in less than a week isn't a clue to you? WTF.

 

And the ol walk down memory lane and the avoidance of the current idiot Byduhm

 

As always, run away. You have nothing but your own hate to grind on, and the post above proves it. Keep on message instead of flailing. It makes your argumentation fragmented, and doesn't address the facts of the current conversation. I can be immensely grateful that you don't have access to any levers of real power. Was that a microwave ding I heard, and a yummy hot pocket ready for your lunch?

 

Maybe. Will have to wait and see. At this point, the Taliban will probably be willing to take help maintaining their billions in new toys from Russia or China.

 

Our departure caused that government's fall. Thank you for making my point.

 

Yeah, the guy that fell from the airplane just did it for the laughs.

 

Then blame it's architect. Soros was pretty cozy with the NGO crowd. Why do you think he should get to skate here? I heard a great descriptive term for the NGO crowd. Trekkies. As in their ridiculous belief in their own ability to experiment on local populations to better vet their academic models. And look how groovy that's turned out. Like many, when Bin Laden wasn't smoked out (Pakistan isn't anyone's friend).... I said, leave. But the NGO crowd saw endless governmental handouts/grants/billions of dollars in reconstruction,...etc.

When you say "well planned".. and I think of the idiots I dealt with in the CPA, well, let us just say the two were never a part of the same sentence.

I'll be looking for your future threads demanding our exit from the rest of the world, S Korea, Germany, Europe in general.... You seem to think oceans are your best defense..... How 50s of you.

 

Do you now understand geography? From where would these awesome attacks be allowed to come from?

 

We the "Great Satan" will always be those people biggest target. You think after all these decades you would be familiar with the term, because it doesn't diminish because of party, Americans ALL Americans are their prime target..