This is where I thought Trump devotees would go from the beginning.

Ship navigators & wagon train guides should do what's best for the his people...even if that means honoring the people's decision over one's personal decision. They should accept that the will of the people supersedes that of their own personal will...even if it may ultimately result in the annihilation of the group. Just as the people should not be subject to the will of the navigator/guide, the navigator/guide likewise should not be subject to the will of the people, and may resign or leave the group.

The navigator/guide should not make demands, rules, laws, or mandates...but only provide wise counsel & advice, and act as mediator and guide. They should listen to the people, and understand the needs of the people without holding their own personal interests above those needs. Should the navigator/guide feel strongly they are in a better position to assertain what is "best" for the people, the truth still remains that it is the will of the people that remains paramount.

The best "leader" is one that does not lead, but shares...without demand, deception, threats or coercion...their talents, expertise, and wisdom. When we all do this, there is no need for a leader...and each person comes to understand that every individual has something of value to share for the greater good...if given a chance.

 

So, you have retorted with this smarmy reply that purposefully doesn't address the actual predicate of what is a very short post, in order to argue what is truly a meaningless distinction... Yawn...... Truth is, I could have just as easily said overturn the results of an election, and it would have the EXACT SAME MEANING.

I have no desire to bicker over what amounts to literally nothing. It would be a wholly meaningless discussion. Please bicker for the sake of bickering elsewhere. It's not my thing.

 

I often think the left is a device like a looping microphone, that takes all the facts, reverses the logic, and rebroadcasts the skewed version of them. Kind of like CNN.

 

Wrong. The navigator is the one who knows where the obstacles are, usually by experience. His basic duty is NOT to take the path people think is easy- but the path which works, which will always fail to make everyone happy. So many things look easy at the beginning, but down the road a ways prove to de disastrous. IF we are going to micro-manage leadership, tell them which way to go at every step- we don't need leaders. Just leave instructions for the surgeon. After all, what the hell would he know that you don't know? Why hire an expert at all? We are all smart about everything.

You would have a leader that simply waits for the people to tell him what to do..... and that means they all die.

 

So what if Trump is guilty? You could say the same about Bill Clinton. They both have their supporters. Look how the ladies who accused Bill of sexual misconduct were treated by Bill's supporters. And Hillary led the supporters.

 

The distinction being the underlying offense. A lie told about a sexual affair as opposed to actions taken to corrupt an election and harm national security while trying to establish a pretense for an imperial presidency where the actions of the prez can not be questioned or controlled.

 

The voters do not elect the president or the vice president the Electoral College does...

 

Yes, two wrongs make a right, right?

 

Do you personally vote for President? If so.... Why?

 

Why vote for someone when you are not really voting for them?

 

I asked whether or not you vote. Do you?

 

Not lately.

 

Nothing alleged is worthy of an impeachment conviction. Even the articles don’t mention a crime.

“Orangeman bad” will look ridiculous in the history books.

 

Maybe in NY and CA.

 

Why not?

 

On probation for growing weed.

 

So......almost three million more people in the United States.

 

LOL....Fair enough.

For myself.... I live in Michigan, and Michigan has its own election, as does every other state. The notion of a national election is a myth, because such an election does not nor ever has existed. In the Michigan election, when people vote for President, the winner of that total gets the vote of all of the electors allocated for Michigan. My vote helps determine whom gets those votes from the Michigan electors, and the Michigan electors are the vehicle by which my vote is cast for President.

To me, for all intents and purposes, this means that my vote is absolutely a key component of whom wins the presidential election. The fact that my vote is for electors is a mere technicality. It is very similar to the reason that I work. The reason that I work is because i need to be able to obtain a reasonable living. While I really go to work in order to be able to have a nice house, it is the cash that I earn which is the vehicle by which that aim is achieved. I do not waste my time lamenting that my job does not give me a house, and instead I focus on the vehicle by which I obtain that house, which is the cash that I earn. In the same vein, I do not lament that my vote does not directly elect the President, and instead I focus on the vehicle by which my vote gets the President that I desire into office. Life is too short to get bogged down in silly, meaningless technicalities.

I subscribe to the method proscribed in the Constitution. It sounds as if you oppose that method. Fortunately for you, there is a means to change the constitution via the amendment process. Since this seems so important to you, I suggest that you go about trying to pass a new amendment. I wish you luck in that endeavor. In the meantime, if you do support a particular candidate, you would be well advised to work within the system in play. Fantasizing about how you may have won if the rules were different is truly a fools errand.

 

Never mind that at least 2.6 million (and up to 10 million) votes for Hillary were artificially manipulated by Google's biased search results.

 

Even if every person in NY and CA wanted Trump out of office, that’s not enough to get it done.

 

And states stopped counting the absentee (military) ballots on the West Coast after Hillary became the projected winner in those states.

 

A viable candidate could out-debate and defeat Trump. We are still waiting for one to appear.

 

A lie told that denied a woman her day in court vs an attempt to root out Democratic corruption. Yeah Clinton should have gone to Jail Trump ought to get a medal.

 

That's the ultimate problem.

Because the DNC has failed to put forth a viable candidate, and I do not believe Biden is truly viable, they feel a need to take Trump down by any means they can find. They actually started voicing it before he was in office a month. Not because there was a particular event or thing, it was purely done out of anger and par-boiled hatred.

I actually do wish the DNC had somebody worthwhile, that would give Trump a hard run. I do not like elections that are won by 'default'.

 

What about his guilt regarding the charges in the AoI?