This Is Why Romney Will Never Be POTUS:

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  1. consagainromney

    consagainromney New Member

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    Abject failure?
    You mean like ending the war in Iraq?
    Taking out bin Laden?
    Rescuing the Auto Industry?
    Making sure that Americans with pre-existing conditions cant be turned down by Insurance companies?
    Saving our nation from a Great Depresssion!
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    I watched that video and it almost sounded like a conservative parodying a liberal for a minute there, but sadly it's for real.

    Basically the whole argument summed up is, "Voter ID laws are racist just because a large number of blacks are too lazy to spend $10 of their welfare money at the DPS for a photo ID."
     
  3. consagainromney

    consagainromney New Member

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    Uhm, it was a video. You dont "read" videos, Genius.
     
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    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Wow! You don't say! Thanks for your brilliant observation there Holmes.
     
  5. consagainromney

    consagainromney New Member

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    You're welcome Sherlock. Fighting ignorance you post at a time: that's what I'm about!
     
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    I dunno why you're even bothering pitching all this support for Obama. Theres no need. He will probably wind up winning anyways since the GOP screwed up again and picked the wrong candidate.

    I would be more worried about 2016 when you guys have to drag Biden out to face either a Libertarian or quite possibly a smart pick from the GOP (which many of us aren't holding our breath). I think you guys know as well as everyone else that Biden doesn't stand much of a chance if that happens. Thats assuming he even bothers to run for president.

    In the meantime, I'm considering that its not even about fighting for first place anymore. Regardless of who wins this year the American people still lose. I would say everyone should be looking ahead. Its about fighting for future elections to not be as screwed up as this one and have better quality candidates to choose from.
     
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    But mopst jobs that are being CUT now are government jobs. The private sector is very successfully creating jobs in America right now. Despite all the bullcrap talked by the Right now governments are cutting government jobs to help reduce the deficit. That's why you see Retail jobs (not government jobs) being created. In fact you are going to be really sunk by a GOP government. They really are not going to do much to help you - even less than the Dems.

    Private companies will have the budgets to create trainee programs if this makes them long term profit. Government will have programs to help people with problems but - under pressure from the GOP in Congress - thes eprograms will be cut. Challenge conservatives directly on this point. You will find that they think you are a freeloader looking for a government handout and should get a job as a janitor.
     
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    you're projecting


    here's a source supporting prong one of the video's assertion


    Georgia Businessman Refuses to Hire Until Obama Is Fired

    A Georgia businessman has an ultimatum for America: Fire President Obama, or he will not hire any more workers.

    Bill Looman, owner of U.S. Cranes LLC, said he is fed up with the bad economy and D.C. politicians who do nothing to solve the problem. So until there is a change of leadership, his company trucks will bear the message: “New Company Policy: We Are Not Hiring Until Obama Is Gone.”

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/georgia-businessman-refuses-to-hire-until-obama-is-fired/


    i voted for romney in my state's primary, i won't do it again
     
  12. Heroclitus

    Heroclitus Well-Known Member

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    Talking to a bank analyst the other day. European corporates are consistently revising their profit forecasts downwards. American corproates are constantly revising them up. The USA is emerging strongly from recession. Companies take the efficiencies first that they have developed during the hard times. They make great profits. Then they hire. Obama has caught the cycle just wrong, ironically just as George HW Bush did.

    Having said that, due to the extremism of the Republican Party he might just win.
     
  13. injest

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    just curious, how many Mormons have crashed planes into buildings in the name of their religion?
     
  14. dujac

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    does the method of killing matter that much?


    Mountain Meadows massacre

    The widely publicized Mountain Meadows massacre of September 11, 1857 during the Utah War was a mass killing of Arkansan emigrants by a Mormon militia led by prominent Mormon leader John D. Lee, who was later executed for his role in the killings. After escalating rumors that some of the emigrants had participated in early Mormon persecution, the militia conducted a siege, and when the emigrants surrendered, the militia killed men, women, and children in cold blood, adopted some of the surviving children, and attempted a cover-up.

    Though widely connected with the blood atonement doctrine by the United States press and general public, there is no direct evidence that the massacre was related to "saving" the emigrants by the shedding of their blood (as they had not entered into Mormon covenants); rather, most commentators view it as an act of intended retribution. Young was accused with either directing the massacre, or with complicity after the fact. When Brigham Young was interviewed on the matter and asked if he believed in blood atonement, he replied, "I do, and I believe that Lee has not half atoned for his great crime." He said "we believe that execution should be done by the shedding of blood instead of by hanging," but only "according to the laws of the land"…


    Justified murder or attempted murder

    Mormonism teaches that violence and even murder can be justified in certain situations, so long as the violence is commanded by God. The Book of Mormon contains an example where Nephi, the narrator of that part of the book, came upon a drunken and passed-out Laban [1 Ne. 4:7-8] laying on the streets of Jerusalem. Laban had previously stolen Nephi's family property and had refused to give Nephi an important set of brass plates he needed for his voyage to the New World in about 600 BC. Considering the circumstances, Nephi said he felt compelled by the Holy Spirit to remove Laban's sword and decapitate Laban [1 Ne. 9:18]. Nephi also reasoned that Laban was wicked, and that "the Lord had delivered Laben into [Nephi's] hands"; therefore, he concluded, the murder was justified (Ne. 4:13, 17).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_violence
     
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    so you had to go back a hundred and fifty plus years to find ONE incident?

    way to make your case there, bud!
     
  16. dujac

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    your excuse is as ridiculous as your initial post

    i can post more incidents, but you only posted one, so i won't bother

    you don't seem to be interested in the truth, just political rhetoric that matches your delusions
     
  17. injest

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    what truth? that somewhere in the distant past, a group of Mormons killed someone else? SHOCKING, what with the history of the world being so fraught with peace and love to find a massacre!! oooooo!!

    my point, and it is one you can NOT refute, is that we need not be concerned that a Mormon leader will declare jihad on anyone, strap a bomb on a woman and send her out to grocery store to kill civilians TODAY. You can not say that about Muslims TODAY.

    now in the event you figure out time travel and intend to travel back to the eighteenth century in the western United States, we will at that time analyze the threats you might/might not face from religious groups IN THAT TIME PERIOD.

    Here in the real world of TODAY, dealing with the potential for violence TODAY, I am far more concerned about Muslims than Mormons...I can toss a pamphlet, I can shut my door...unfortunately, can't withstand a bomb blast and I am not bulletproof at all..(or shrapnel proof for that matter)
     
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    what i joke, it was completely refuted, you just keep making up ridiculous excuses for being wrong
     
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    Please Let Me Vote Banned

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    The US Army killed countless millions of indians...do that bother you? Probably not because it happened before your great-grandfather was alive...get over yourself. What, you think Romney is going to kill someone based on something obscure that happened a hundred and fifty years ago? Lord, you don't need an excuse not to vote for him, just pick Obama like you want to and if he wins, I'll bum a smoke from you in the soup line.
     
  21. dujac

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    does it bother you that you don't seem to be able to follow a conversation or make a sensible statement?
     
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    No...nothing bothers me except Obama and his minions, of which I count you as a card carrying member.
     
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    MoveOn.org is the OP link. FAIL
     
  24. injest

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    "what i joke"?? and you are talking about other people not being coherent? pot meet the kettle...

    regardless: here is an event that happened this week...not a hundred plus years ago...

    http://news.yahoo.com/islamists-conduct-amputations-mali-175854236.html

    where Muslims took five men out into a public square and amputated their hands and feet; then forced small children to clean the blood from the street.

    now...you find me an incident that happened THIS WEEK where a Mormon did anything evenly remotely similar...I'll wait over here patiently for you to retype some drivel about how I have been refuted or can't have an intelligent conversation (ANYTHING to keep from answering my point...*wink wink*)
     
  25. dujac

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    just admit your assertion was pointless and easily refuted
     

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