Thoughtless WTC Conclusions

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    One of my favorite thoughtless conclusions that OCT supporters have made and in many cases continue to perpetuate the myth is the notion that it was even possible for fuel to pour down the elevator shafts much less puddle in the basements at the bottom of the shafts. This thread is prompted because someone recently posted that on this site.



    we can see here that liquid contained inside of aluminum turns to a spray immediately upon impact when the tank is severed.

    So are these thoughtless conclusions or purely propaganda, or something else?
     
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    Anyone can see most of the fuel went up in a fireball OUTSIDE the towers upon impact:




    Not to mention William Rodriguez's testimony corroborated by other eyewitnesses who claim a huge explosion in the sub-basement PRIOR to any airplane impact and Bobby McIlvan'e coroner report that he was killed by a massive explosion upon entering the lobby.

    https://gumshoenews.com/2016/09/10/...what-really-happened-to-bobby-mcilvaines-son/
     
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    How is someone in the basement supposed to know when the plane hit.
    Of course there was an explosion in the lobby.
    The force came out of the elevator shafts.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh thats usually what happens when explosive devices are planted below the lobby causing explosions to take place in the elevator shaft immediately below the lobby. What else would you expect?
     
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    Yeah right
    That's what happens when they are flooded with jet fuel.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    oh?



    Apparently you dont know that jet fuel is not an explosive material, why dont you look it up and post the burn rate for us then explain how it could remotely in anyones wildest imagination have enough force to blow off elevator doors, blow out 4" thick glass, crack, break up and knock all the marble off the walls and floor.

    I anxiously await hearing how that is conceivably possible!
     
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    No you don't
    It went down 100 floors with other residue from the building.
    Lots of pressure.
    That will explode

    Or it could have been the gnomes with holograms.
     
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  8. Kokomojojo

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    oh, so 'it' poured down the elevator shaft under the high pressure of gravity for over 1000 feet so it could blow up in the basement and blow out the elevator in the lobby above. Makes perfect nonsense to me!

    Yes, in fact it would be easier for me to believe it was gnomes with holograms than the story you just spun.

    Singing and dancing is not a good substitute for facts, especially facts which are very easy to find like the burn rate of jet fuel. 'plonk'
     
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    The guy will say anything that he thinks defends the OCT no matter how ridiculous.
     
  10. yasureoktoo

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    so you do get it.
     
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  11. Kokomojojo

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    yeh you agree that I get it and it goes without saying that if I get it you dont. Especially after showing you video demonstrations proving its impossible to get an explosion with your theory.
    and brag about it no less.
     
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    You have quite an imagination.
    How utterly standard,
    You're favorite accusation, and favorite excuse.

    I never read the OCT.

    It interests me the same as yours
    Most of your -- I never read.
     
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  13. Kokomojojo

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    well at least you admit you are a twu believer, that you believe the gubmints OCT without any knowledge what you believe in.

    Not surprising that I try to debate you and you have nothing to discuss.

    Since you admit you know nothing about the subject it forces one to question why are you in any of these threads in the first place?
     
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    Making stuff up again I see.
    From your posts, it seems you are the one who knows nothing about it.

    and BTW, on most of the stuff posted here,
    you don't have to know the governments position to know you are wrong.
     
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    The video proves that no 'pouring' can take place. Therefore corroborating evidence has been posted so either you have some evidence to counter that position or you are off topic.
     
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    There is NO EVIDENCE of any "basement explosion" ergo there is no basis for your "thoughtless WTC conclusions".
     
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    Says who?

    Fuel smashing into a wall at 500mph cannot 'pour' anywhere. LOL
     
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    That’s false. There is corroborating eyewitness testimony as well as physical evidence (injuries). These are part of the body of evidence filed with the grand jury petition.
     
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    You have a woman who said.
    It looked like a bomb went off in there.

    I said the same about my kids bedrooms
     
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    Well if your kids were injured I suggest you take them to the hospital. This thread is about what may have happened or not on 9/11 not about the condition of your kids’ bedrooms.
     
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    You made this ridiculous allegation;

    Where is your FACTUAL CREDIBLE EVIDENCE for these imaginary "explosive devices" of yours?
     
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    They don't have "FACTUAL CREDIBLE EVIDENCE", for anything.
     
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    You have posters who weren't there contradicting eyewitness claims of hearing, feeling and being injured by explosions in the sub-basement of the WTC.

     
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    In other words you have SQUAT!

    :roflol:

    Nitpicking over the couple of seconds between those events is EVIDENCE of DESPERATION because it certainly is NOT evidence of any explosions!

    What makes it all the MORE LUDICROUS is that if there were "explosions" prior to the impacts then there MUST have been a THIRD SET OF SEISMIC DATA that DOES NOT EXIST!

    The data that exists shows two impacts and three collapses and ZERO explosions.

    Why do these imaginary "explosions" NOT appear in the seismic data?
     

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