Thousands rally against Israel in Istanbul

So NO answer on 'whatreallyhappened' or your other Loony bin Conspiracy sources, only a Cherry Picked tiny excerpt from MY site on 21sCenturyWire.
And of course , YOU 'Liked' Jazz's 'FourWinds10' Conspiracy post, you were incensed was attributed to you.
Your links like '"blissful-wisdom", "Trionfopublishing" (and 100 more), are just as bad. Antisemitic conspiracy scum sites..

Here's the whole 21stCenturyWire review Unabridged..

Notes: 21st Century Wire is an alternative news website that rejects the consensus of science regarding climate change and also promotes the c
Conspiracy that mainstream media is publishing fake news.
This source has also received an unproven claim by Snopes, which 21st Century Wire considers a questionable source.
The website Fort Liberty has placed 21st Century Wire on it’s Fake News/Hoax list.
I disagree with Fort Liberty that 21st Century is a publisher of fake news. 21st Century employs somewhat sensational headlines and does provide sourcing to attempt to support claims. The primary issue is that 21st Century publishes some questionable stories (see examples above) that are embedded among legitimate stories they publish.
This can mislead the reader. (D. Van Zandt 7/20/2016)

Notes# 2: 21st Century Wire is conspiracy and fake news with an extreme right bias. Additionally, their headlines are sensationalist and largely misleading.

21st Century Wire is a conspiracy and conjecture site run by Patrick Henningsen. Henningsen has ties to both Infowars and Alex Jones, also known for fake news and broad conspiracies.
They also seem to have ties to, or at least to be pro Russian in much of their content. Specifically Russian Times (RT) the state run Russian news outlet. While they claim to present news from both the left and the right I saw no evidence of impartiality or opinions from the left in any of the stories I read.

Additionally, their stories are Non-sourced, with No links except to their own stories, and are little more than loosely associated facts tied together broad conjecture and innuendo. When trying to research some of their claims myself I could find no corroboration from a credible source. Ironically, they are currently in a self proclaimed war against “Fake News”, and the site features several stories on the subject. These war on “fake news” stories, as with their other content, contain little fact and lots of conjecture, with links to their other stories instead of links to external sources. I have provided a breakdown of one of their stories below.

In the story “The Mainstream Media Contortionists And Their Fake News Circus”. They begin by discussing Agnes Gruta, a journalist writing for La Presse, questioning the bias of Eva Bartlett, a journalist writing for Russia Today. While they admit Ms. Bartlett’s ties to RT, instead of addressing the possible bias of Ms. Bartlett they launch into an attack on Ms. Gruta instead. After this they delve into a broad attack of the purported bias of several other media outlets. There is also an addendum to the story by Ms. Bartlett herself, which is unusual in itself as rebuttals are usually published separately. The rebuttal purports to defend both herself and RT from the question of bias. It falls short however, as Ms. Bartlett, in her own words, admits that her work is biased:

“…no corporate newspaper would publish what I wrote–not without heavy editing and censorship and changing of my chosen lexicon.”

On a personal note, I would have trouble trusting any news source that did not exercise at least some editorial control over what they publish, even an opinion piece. I also have trouble trusting a news source that Only cites itself as corroboration of it’s “facts”.
D. Kelley 2/15/2017​

ALL your posts are CRAAAAAAP. Scraping the internet for Joo dirt.
One insane link after another, one sensastional/Jooflamatory Blood Libel headline after another.
It's positively "Genotoxic"/"Carcinogenic"!
+

 

Does anyone really read the crap this guy shovels out?

 

The Palestinian refugees don't have Israel, because Israel doesn't recognize their citizenship.
Have you done much research into the origins of the conflict?

That could well be possible if the Israelis recognized their citizenship.
I think what you may have missed in all this is that, in order for Israel to remain majority Jewish (ie a "Jewish state"), it must continue to deny the Palestinian refugees citizenship of Israel.

Israel was never actually majority Jewish, they just didn't recognize the citizenship rights of people they were keeping out of their homes on "Israeli" soil, on the basis that they were, effectively, the wrong color.

Its an uncomfortable fact, but the closest thing you'll get to a neo Nazi today is an Israeli Zionist.

 

- minus concentration camps, gas chambers, totalitarianism, fascism, wars to conquer the world...basically minus all attributes of Nazism

+ plus democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, independent judiciary, 2 official languages, one man one vote, the right to elect and be elected...basically all attributes of a western democracy

One has to wonder why Neo-nazis, islamo-nazis and leftist-Nazis hate Israel with about equal passion....

 

OK Wise guy/'Mr research':
1. Israeli Zionists are "neo Nazis"?
I think you need a dictionary Adolph, or tell us your fabrication for 'Zionist.'

2. Jews were a majority in Israel as it was conceived/counted in 1947.. pre-partition.
You haven't even read this string much less 'researched'.
My #435
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...el-in-istanbul.511005/page-22#post-1067870154

Had Arabs (later taken the name 'palestinians') accepted the partition, NOT one would have been displaced, and all those in the new Israeli state would have been citizens.
Alas...
+

 

And how many of them are killed by HAMAS?

 

For the same reason, school valedictorian is often despised - people in general hate overachievers.

 

Since Israel is outvoted by 95% to a 100% means it proves my point... that the entire world says you Jews are wrong.

Even your Benny Morris acknowledges that the Jew state refused to let +700,00 Arab civilians back to their houses.

But I am completely right, by pointing out that your precious Benny Morris acknowledges the lands were cleansed. To think he as an Israeli Jew, with his "Revisionist Narrative" still is totally supportive of those actions. Hence you lot live in the most condemned nation of the planet.

 

They were killed by Jews. Do you know Sabra and Shatila massacre?

 

Someone does need to do research: "
Arab citizens of Israel[3] or Arab population of Israel are Israeli citizens, whose cultural and linguistic heritage or ethnic identity is Arab. The majority of the Arabs in Israel are Muslim but some are Christian or Druze.[4] Many identify as Palestinian and commonly self-designate themselves as Palestinian citizens of Israel.[5] The traditional vernacular of most Arab citizens, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Most Arab citizens of Israel are functionally bilingual, their second language being Modern Hebrew. By religious affiliation, most are Muslim, particularly of the Sunni branch of Islam. There is a significant Arab Christian minority from various denominations as well as the Druze, among other religious communities.

According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, the Arab population in 2013 was estimated at 1,658,000, representing 20.7% of the country's population.[2] The majority of these identify themselves as Arab or Palestinian by nationality and Israeli by citizenship.[6][7][8] Many have family ties to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, as well as to Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. Negev Bedouins and the Druze tend to identify more as Israelis than other Arab citizens of Israel.[9][10][11][12]

Most of the Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel in the Six Day War of 1967 and later annexed, were offered Israeli citizenship, but most have refused, not wanting to recognize Israel's claim to sovereignty. They became permanent residents instead.[13] They have the right to apply for citizenship, are entitled to municipal services, and have municipal voting rights.[14]"--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

Again, the Palestinian sympathizers use smoke and mirrors, disingenuous rhetoric, downright lies and deceits to portray themselves as beaten dogs crying for mercy from the barbaric ideas of western civlilzation--, reason and science--in order to establish Islamic theocracies that they promise will respect freedom and liberty even though they have broken every single promise they have ever made. I have make a mistake a judge you a misguided honest man, but you are a liar and charlatan and will have nothing do with you any longer. Life is too short to argue with dimwits and liars.

I can only state I stand by my argument for the reasons named. MY judgment of you is are a lair fraud.I have neirther time nor patience for you. We are done.

Jump to: navigation, search
Arab citizens of Israel
(عرب إسرائيل (العرب الإسرائيليون
עֲרָבִים אֶזרָחֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל‎
Total population
1,658,000
Over 278,000 in East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights (2012)
20.7% of Israeli population[1][2]
Regions with significant populations
Israel
Languages
Palestinian Arabic, Bedouin dialects and Hebrew
Religion
Islam 83.8% (mostly Sunni), Christianity 8.4% and Druze 8.2%[1]
This article contains Arabic text. Without proper rendering support, you may see question marks, boxes, or other symbols.

Map of Arab population, 2015

Arab citizens of Israel[3] or Arab population of Israel are Israeli citizens, whose cultural and linguistic heritage or ethnic identity is Arab. The majority of the Arabs in Israel are Muslim but some are Christian or Druze.[4] Many identify as Palestinian and commonly self-designate themselves as Palestinian citizens of Israel.[5] The traditional vernacular of most Arab citizens, irrespective of religion, is the Palestinian dialect of Arabic. Most Arab citizens of Israel are functionally bilingual, their second language being Modern Hebrew. By religious affiliation, most are Muslim, particularly of the Sunni branch of Islam. There is a significant Arab Christian minority from various denominations as well as the Druze, among other religious communities.

According to Israel's Central Bureau of Statistics, the Arab population in 2013 was estimated at 1,658,000, representing 20.7% of the country's population.[2] The majority of these identify themselves as Arab or Palestinian by nationality and Israeli by citizenship.[6][7][8] Many have family ties to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, as well as to Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. Negev Bedouins and the Druze tend to identify more as Israelis than other Arab citizens of Israel.[9][10][11][12]

Most of the Arabs living in East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, occupied by Israel in the Six Day War of 1967 and later annexed, were offered Israeli citizenship, but most have refused, not wanting to recognize Israel's claim to sovereignty. They became permanent residents instead.[13] They have the right to apply for citizenship, are entitled to municipal services, and have municipal voting rights.[14]--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel

The most illustrious example of the proper answer to the Argument from Intimidation was given in American history by the man who, rejecting the enemy’s moral standards and with full certainty of his own rectitude, said:

“If this be treason, make the most of it.”--http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/argument_from_intimidation.html

Well, let me paraphrase, if this be naivety, it must be ours.

Ot fight for tyranny in the name of freedom is as moral and logical as is to rape in the name of love. And this is what you are preaching.

 

Zionism is a nationalist socialist movement. It is the closest parallel since WWII to the Nazi state.

Nationalists by definition hate each-other when they are sharing the same territory.

 

The source is presstv. It says so at the end of the article.

 

Why on earth would any Israeli recognize itself in a photo about an earthquake in Turkey?

The above picture has won the 1983 World Press Association award for best photo, with the caption "Kezban Özer (37) finds her five children buried alive after a devastating earthquake. At five o'clock in the morning she and her husband were milking the cows as their children slept. A few minutes later, 147 villages in the region were destroyed by an earthquake of magnitude 7.1 on the Richter scale; 1,336 people died. (Mustafa Bozdemir)".

Your point?

 

Utter nonsense. Zionism has nothing to do with socialism to begin with and a movement to establish a national community/state has nothing whatsoever in common with Nazism, their goals, methods, views...

Zionism: an international movement originally for the establishment of a Jewish national or religious community in Palestine and later for the support of modern Israel

 

I've already explained to your bitsy beard that a poll/vote is not proof of truth.

Argumentum ad populum - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum is a Fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition is true because many or most people believe it: ..

One notes I've backed you off your 10x repeated Lie, "Ethnic Cleansing' to merely not letting the 700K back in.
And if he did, he'd be wrong, as I Already PORKED you with:

1. Benny: "...In defiance of the will of the International community, as embodied in the UN General Assembly Resolution of Nov 29th, 1947 (No. 181), they launched hostilities against the Jewish community in Palestine in the hope of aborting the emergence of the Jewish state and perhaps destroying that community. But they lost; and one of the results was the displacement of 700,000 of them from their homes.

Most of Palestine's 700,000 "refugees" fled their homes because of the flail of war (and in the expectation that they would shortly return to their homes on the backs of victorious Arab invaders)....

There was No Zionist "plan" or blanket policy of evicting the Arab population, or of "ethnic cleansing"."..."


2. Current palestinian President:
"The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, THEY abandoned them, FORCED THEM TO EMIGRATE AND TO LEAVE THEIR HOMELAND, Imposed upon them a political and ideological blockade and threw them into Prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live in Eastern Europe, as if we were condemned to change places with them; they moved out of their ghettos and we occupied similar ones. The ARAB States succeeded in scattering the Palestinian people and in destroying their unity. They did Not Recognize them as a unified people until the States of the world did so, and this is Regrettable".

- by Abu Mazen, from the article titled: "What We Have Learned and What We Should Do", published in Falastin el Thawra, the official journal of the PLO, of Beirut, March 1976



3. “Since 1948 it is we who demanded the return of refugees… while it is we who made them to leave…
We brought disaster upon… Arab refugees, by inviting them and bringing pressure to bear upon them to leave…
We have rendered them dispossessed…
We have accustomed them to begging…
We have participated in lowering their moral and social level…
Then we exploited them in executing crimes of murder, arson, and throwing bombs upon… men, women and children - all in service of political purpose...

– Khaled al Azm, Syria‘s Prime Minister after the 1948 war


4. "Even if Israel is NOT the cause of the Arab refugee problem, didn't they do anything to compensate those people?

As a goodwill gesture during the Lausanne negotiations in 1949, Israel offered to take back 100,000 Palestinian refugees prior to any discussion of the refugee question. The Arab states, who had Refused even to negotiate face-to-face with the Israelis, turned down the offer because it implicitly recognized Israel's existence.

Despite this, on Humanitarian grounds Israel has since the 1950's allowed more than 50,000 refugees to return to Israel under a family reunification program, and between 1967 and 1993 allowed a further 75,000 to return to the West Bank or Gaza. Since the beginning of the Oslo process Israel has allowed another 90,000 Palestinians to gain residence in PA-controlled territory.

Arabs who lost property in Israel are eligible to file for compensation from Israel's Custodian of Absentee Property. As of the end of 1993, a total of 14,692 claims had been filed, claims were settled with respect to more than 200,000 dunums of land, more than 10,000,000 NIS (New Israeli Sheckels) had been paid in compensation, and more than 54,000 dunums of Replacement Land had been given in compensation.

Israel has followed this generous policy despite the fact that not a single penny of compensation has ever been paid to any of the more than 500,000 Jewish refugees from Arab countries, who were forced by the Arab governments to abandon their homes, businesses and savings."

- Alexander Safian, PhD​

And of course, virtually all of the '700,000' are dead.
Thanks for being my vehicle.
More Layups/give-and-goes/slam-dunks please!
+

EDIT to immediately below.
Note the quickly evaporating, Non-conversant, but still repeating/last-wording his Lost self 'notme'.
Me? I like the page the way it is.

 

The ICJ is not a popularity contest, nor the UNSC where no muslim nation got veto power while Christian/judean do.
The EU is also part of the 100% Christian/judean fraction. And they disagree.
argument denied.

That actually proves the Jews thieved the property of Arabs. Stick that to your payots.

 

Ah! No wonder I don't wanna open it.

 

Take it to the bank

 

No. Should I?

Do you know about HAMAS firing their firecrackers from near skruls, hospitals, playgrounds, thus inviting children casualties when Israel retaliates?

 

My point? Do you really want to know my point? I've a doubt, but as a gentleman (Siberian gentleman) I satisfy your cariosity.

As any Russian I dislike the fascism. Because you are fascists (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379), I dislike Israel. As you know, Americans are stupid and fat ones, Russians are stupid and drunk ones, Jews are stupid and venal ones.

As you saw we discussed the Sabra & Shatila massacre. As an illustration I've found some photo with such tag. Of course I never been there and can't recognize a fake. And... the first photo that I've chosen is a fake. Wow... How it could be?

It is because your government palms off fakes in order to expose them after. You know, that your people are killers therefore you've preferred not discuss Sabra & Shatila and expose the fake. If Jews think that it helps then they are stupid ones. I'd say they are idiots. But don't upset, lady, all people are idiots. That's my point.

 

Ha ha ha... that's setting him straight

 

Hmm.... The American....

 

In other words, you've tried to pull a fast one, and was caught. Better lies next time

 

I commend you on your English language ability, Mr. Siberian gentleman. Seen any Ussuri tigers lately?

 

One can clearly see now why all Israelis are trained as soldiers.