Time for the United States to FORCE a Peaceful Settlement.

First of all...IF a GOD existed...and that is a BIG IF....why would such a GOD have GENDER?

You referred to such a GOD as HE. I know that the ancient text states that GOD made man in his own image but that is the writings of ancient man who didn't think or know that LOGIC dictates that if a GOD existed before MAN...and because our Human Bodies have EVOLVED to be as they are because we developed on this planet and we have lungs so we breath air...but as a Fetus develops in the womb our lungs act as GILLS....and a Fetus breaths fluid all the while in the womb....and is able to do so because our lungs evolved FROM GILLS.

So ancient man writing about a GOD did not take into account that any GOD would have no need nor any possible reason...to exist as a Human Being never mind the fact that if such a GOD created the Earth in 6 days...which is also a FANTASY...and he would have already existed as a Human Bodied Entity...the characteristics of the Human body specific to evolutionary development based upon our planets gravity, average temperature, predator/prey aspects such as our forward looking eyes not those like a deer or cow which are on either sides of the head to be able to watch for predators....as well as something as simple as the VAST number of organisms such as Intestinal Bacteria which without....a person could not live.

All these things show us that the story of GOD being created in Man's image is but a story told by people who had barely mastered how to build shelter.

AboveAlpha

 

Neolithic Man left no evidence of any such belief. The concept of such a god appeared very late in Man's development- a retrograde step by many accounts.

 

OK...now your just being clever. LOL!

Seriously...have you ever seen the building built in Gaza or in other areas?

It looks like a drunken brick layer with one eye and one leg shorter than the other built them!

AboveAlpha

 

You think that Palestinian muslims view ' god ' in the same anthropomorphic terms as christians ?

 

From my experiences I find that Christians tend to view a GOD more so as an actual person. This is most likely due to their belief in Jesus as the son of GOD.

AboveAlpha

 

West Bank, Gaza Strip, Israeli Gaza Strip Barrier, Intifada,public buses suicide bombers,fatah fighting with hamas,Katyushas, these kids needs a Nanny all the time, otherwise they will burn down the entire house.

 

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life" (John 3:16).

I have no interest in arguing with anyone about God's gender because I myself also don’t know the answer. I just follow the Bible's traditional way of using the masculine pronouns (He, Him and His) for God.

Please quote any verse from the Bible that uses the feminine pronouns (She and Her) or neuter pronouns (It and Its) for God. Perhaps you should grab the chance to achieve immortal fame by rewriting the Bible using either the feminine or neuter pronouns for God.

By the way, when the time comes for you to meet Jesus, you should ask Him why he addressed God as Father, not Mother.

God's Only Begotten Son
http://www.icr.org/home/resources/resources_tracts_godsonlybegottenson/

 

The phrase “a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation,” is not saying we respect all opinions but is saying we respect argument, hence we immediately follow that sentence by making our case for people to judge:

“When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness…” http://www.law.indiana.edu/uslawdocs/declaration.html

Obama and Clinton in violation of their oaths of office on the other hand has taken the view that we reject argument, and freedom of speech necessary for it, in favor of tribute to false prophets and Great Leaders and governments anti-Christian to ours:

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...07377-case-impeachment-obama-article-one.html

“‘We’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video,’ said Hillary Clinton.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/331806/incredible-shrinking-president-mark-steyn

“On November 28, 2012, an Egyptian court sentenced him, along with several other Coptic Christians and anti-Islam preacher Terry Jones, to death in absentia for defaming Islam.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakoula_Basseley_Nakoula

Those regimes which have no respect for freedom of speech have no respect for the opinions of mankind which is derived from valid argument.

Now, as to your propaganda:

“While I think they are wrong to call our President a terrorist, they are just doing what we do:
We been calling President Bashar Al Assad a lot of bad names.”

“We” as in the United States or “we” as in freedom of speech of our many people, which the president does not support and defend, so I will stick with the latter, I am sure see a difference between President Obama and President Bashar Al Assad. Whereas “Assad announced that he would not support policies that might threaten the dominance of the Baʿth Party” and Obama said, "Part of American leadership is making sure that we’re doing nation building here at home. That will help us maintain the kind of American leadership that we need," Obama has not yet run unopposed or implement in the open and without challenge domestic measures at the IRS…to insure the dominance of the National Socialist Democratic Party.

The OP wants us to force a peaceful settlement and says, “Given the slight by the Israeli Leadership of the President of the United States and the uncooperative nature of the current Palestinian Leadership...now would be the time to implement such a plan.”


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“112a. Almost the same words, excluding the exception, occur in 2:61. The Jews
had already been subjected to the greatest humiliation and disgrace before the appearance of the Prophet. But with the advent of Islåm they could better their condition either by accepting the covenant of Allåh, by which is meant the acceptance of Islåm, or by making a compact of security with such men as could give them protection. This remains true to this day." http://www.muslim.org/english-quran/index.htm

“[2.40] O children of Israel! call to mind My favor which I bestowed on you and be faithful to (your) covenant with Me, I will fulfill (My) covenant with you; and of Me, Me alone, should you be afraid.
[2.41] And believe in what I have revealed, verifying that which is with you, and be not the first to deny it, neither take a mean price in exchange for My communications; and Me, Me alone should you fear.
[2.42] And do not mix up the truth with the falsehood, nor hide the truth while you know (it).
[2.43] And keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate and bow down with those who bow down.”
“[2.83] And when We made a covenant with the children of Israel: You shall not serve any but Allah and (you shall do) good to (your) parents, and to the near of kin and to the orphans and the needy, and you shall speak to men good words and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate. Then you turned back except a few of you and (now too) you turn aside.”

Now considering the Jews voted 70% for Obama and I have been amused at watching some of them flip t-shirts from Obama to against to back with every comment, I sometimes wonder why we care.

The religious right believes Jesus will come if the United States abandons Israel to the 67 borders, and logically that makes no sense why we would care because we are Saved-Uh, and it is the Jews that potentially voted for their own destruction, and the Black Stone Idolaters believe judgment day cannot come until they talk to rocks and trees:

'Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him – except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talaat_Afifi

And as to the 67 borders they did not want that:

"We, the Palestinian Arab people, who believe in its Arabism...Article 8: Bringing up Palestinian youth in an Arab and nationalist manner is a fundamental national duty. All means of guidance, education and enlightenment should be utilized to introduce the youth to its homeland in a deep spiritual way that will constantly and firmly bind them together." http://www.un.int/wcm/content/site/palestine/pid/12363

“Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields.” (ibid)

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The problem is that Obama is absolutely the last person to force Israel to anything, because of the disclaimers claiming Obama is a liar with regard to support of Islam and lying when he loves Israel.

And I believe the Moslems only believe Obama is a terrorist because he has only arrested a former Egyptian man for freedom of speech and not beheaded him yet in response to Benghazi, and the president has not supported suicide bombers yet in Israel in keeping with his understanding of purifying the community or Jihad by ethically cleansing the Jews who do not bow down with those who bow down.

 

I certainly do hope there is a GOD and hope that Jesus exists.

I am looking forward to telling such a GOD...."YOUR FIRED!"

AboveAlpha

 

That ought to offend his sense of grammar, if nothing else.

 

HIS...sense? LOL!

AboveAlpha

 

It's more polite and there is absolutely no point in causing unnecessary offense.

 

I am sure your right.

But the reality remains that IF...and again that is a BIG IF....IF a GOD exists....it is most likely NOTHING what people would think it is and certainly not something that would have...GENDER.

AboveAlpha

 

The Road Map was not a creation of the UN and it has no UN Mandate and it is a road map to nowhere . Nothing is fair about it. And it needs to he trashed. Best thing for all concerned would be a completete cessation of every bit of US aid to both sides, to include weapons and weapons sales. Those weapons Israel uses to unlawfully kill civilians and children with.

 

US idea of peace in Syria:
[video=youtube;1n9SBzY0XF4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1n9SBzY0XF4[/video]

US military policy since Lincoln:
"We are not fighting against enemy armies, but against an enemy people, both young and old, rich and poor, and they must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as organized armies."

 

Well I disagree with you as far as the Road Map being fair because I believe it is.

As far as stopping all U.S. Aid...I am with you on that because as long as the leadership of the Palestinians and Israeli's keep on getting Billions in U.S. Aid...they have no reason to sue for peace.

AboveAlpha

 

Best post/Opening thread on the ME conflict, that I have seen in a long time.

I will leave this thread, as the best idea is on the opening post!

 

Luke 12:5 - But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

Matthew 10:28 - Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Hebrews 10:31 - It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Luke 12:5
http://biblehub.com/luke/12-5.htm

Are you afraid now? Do you still dare to fire the One who has the power to make you die twice?

 

You are FUNNY! LOL!

I have extensive Biblical knowledge as well as knowledge of just how the Bible was created by the Imperial Roman Church. It was ROME and it's Christian State Religious Leadership that created the New Testament.

There are many, many Gospels and Books that are left out of the New Testament as specific texts were picked and chosen out of the whole to prevent any conflicting messages.

As well there are HUNDREDS of mistranslations in the Bible both Old and New Testamensts such as Moses DID NOT PART THE RED SEA....Moses crosses the REED SEA which is a body of water that contains a great reeed marsh between the Red and Med Seas.

Also EVERY SINGLE GOSPEL that was placed in the New Testament IS NOT the original Gospel text from the authors. They are text that has been copied from text upon text and thus it cannot be certain exactly what the original words or message was.

The stories of the Old Testament were designed for the purpose of SCARING PEOPLE STRAIGHT as back then people were basically out of control and needed guidance.

IF there is a GOD...and again that is a BIG IF.....it would not be something that we either could understand or relate to and it is certainly not some old guy sitting on a cloud with a beard.

Your post to me shows me just how crazy people are over their beliefs.

I have known this for some time as many who are like this are causing the problems I and my Team must rectify by whatever means are necessary and such people seldom if ever can be reasoned with.

Because of this I am tasked with sending them on their way to discover either way whether that GOD sits on a clud or has a beard. Unfortunately such a trip is one way so I have never had someone I have sent come back to tell me the realities.

AboveAlpha

 

No need to be tasked with sending anymore people on their way. Just wait patiently. You will definitely find out the "realities" by yourself one day.

 

OR....I will simply DIE....and that would be it.

I HOPE I am wrong...but if there is some kind of existence after a person dies it is most likely NOTHING at all like what any RELIGION has said it would be.

RELIGIONS are a construct of MAN....and have NOTHING to do with spirituality.

AboveAlpha

 

Why is it that WE have to do anything...?! Neither Palestine nor Israel is the 51st state of the United States. Strictly speaking, it's NONE OF OUR ****ING BUSINESS, and we need to quit blowing billions of dollars that WE DON'T HAVE trying to buy "peace in the Middle East". Damn it, we've been bleeding billions of dollars over there with no useful conclusion ever since the end of World War II. This is truly insane, and now we cannot afford to do this anymore!

 

I am with you!

If you had experienced the S#!% I have in such lower level meetings you would get angry...VERY ANGRY. It takes just about everything I have to prevent me from slapping the smug little smiles off these F#@%@ Faces whenever I might be called to do such...JOBS.

It is truly sickening.

AboveAlpha

 

You are really a staunch believer and worshipper of MONEY POWER. To you, it is not God or Allah is Great but MONEY POWER is Great!

 

I am a believer that all parties refuse to form a peace BECAUSE they are making MONEY from all those providing AID...especially the United States.

If we cut off that Monetary AID....then you will see a PEACE.

AboveAlpha