Time for the United States to FORCE a Peaceful Settlement.

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  1. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

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    It looks like Uncle Sam is in need of high doses of Viagra.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    Unless a person is purposely moving to the U.S. for the purpose of performing a terrorist act or an act of purposeful violence....close to 100% of all immigrants to the United States are very happy to have been so fortunate to get in.

    I have and still do travel extensively and I have been all over the world. I have been to progressive European countries, nations of the Indian Ocean shores and Asian Pacific rim...the Middle East...Central and South America...F@&%$!& AFRICA!....and I can tell you that no matter where I have gone there is a different feeling and vibe one feels letting them know that where they are is NOT America or the U.S.

    Regardless of how anyone might feel about the possibility of the loss of rights...when I am in the States my guard is WAY DOWN and I feel a sense of security that I feel nowhere else.

    Now because of what I do and my extensive training and experiences...I am a person who will wake up at the slightest of noise. I tend to avoid crowds as even though I often am in front of crowds I am made separate by certain crews and if I find myself buried in a crown I have to avoid reacting to being bumped into and something as simple as a person dropping their keys might set me into motion.

    Now these feelings are compounded 10 fold if I am not in the States and I can sense a noticeable difference when in other countries. Now equate this to a person who has immigrated to the U.S. and for most of their lives has had a feeling similar to mine in that they never really felt safe and were always on guard.

    In my experiences I find people who have immigrated to the United States as friendly and hopeful as well as such people seem to desire to improve themselves especially if they have children.

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. reedak

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    When Moses parted the Red Sea 3,000 years ago, he did not need a synagogue or any holy place to perform the miracle. To those who have faith in their religions, God or Allah is in their hearts. Temples and mosques are built in the hearts long before they are built with money.

    Look at the Talibans who are fighting the US-led NATO forces in Afghanistan. They just pray anywhere on the battlefield. If they have to go to a mosque for praying while in battle, they would have long dead by now.

    Money does not make the world go round for those who love God or Allah more than money.
     
  4. reedak

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    Don't worry. You do not need to pay for the stones. You can find a lot of stones flying through the air in your direction.

    IDF, Palestinians clash in several West Bank hot-spots
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-palestinians-clash-across-west-bank/

    Clashes in West Bank: 2 settlers, soldier injured by stones
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4349815,00.html
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    It's the same level of torture I must endure when I ended up being stuck there for Freekin' 2 MONTHS!

    Instead of being home with family swimming in my pool and grilling up steaks and eating corn on the cob...I end up having to spend day after day talking to some damn Aide as it takes they 2 weeks just to agree upon what times and how long between 30 minute breaks such a meeting will be.

    After 10 weeks and after having to get up at 4 am after being out all night long because I get a call telling me they have agreed to terms upon when a meeting will take place...that when being at 6 am on my DAY OFF...I take a shower and get dressed then show up with a few of my guy's only to find out they decided to cancel for some stupid reason.

    After that I decided THEY were no longer going to dictate to me the how's, why's and when's....as I tried a new approach in a manner a lot less...cordial then either side was used to.

    It worked...not completely...but at least they knew not to keep screwing around with me.

    AboveAlpha
     
  6. happy fun dude

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    Have you tried the 'light and sound experience', to the same degree for the same duration, yourself?

    And you didn't answer my question about why you guys did it.
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Yes...I have tried it and it really doesn't bother me for the first 6 hours...after that it get's very old quickly.

    I never said I did this....nor did I say I didn't do this.

    I said if it was up to me that is what I would do if those parties couldn't agree to peace...and then I said even if they signed...I would leave them in there! LOL! Just because I had to be there in the first place.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    To add to this different people from different cultures will despise specific music and pictures or videos.

    AboveAlpha
     
  9. happy fun dude

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    OMG lol my bad.. I don't know where I got that wrong idea about what you said.. My apologies... Thanks for having a sense of humor about it!
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    No big deal.

    It has never been my JOB to extract information from a person as if I am meeting with you...I already know far more than I need to do my JOB.

    What I find funny is the people that comprise my team as well as myself are not just highly trained in being able to protect ourselves but as well such people I hand pick are those who look at this as a JOB and not anything personal....although those we visit find it VERY personal.

    Such people tend to act in a Hollywood Bad Guy manner thinking if they can act in a Hostile and Intimidating way that this will somehow scare us into leaving or frighten us in a manner that will lead to our making concessions.

    Their attitude lasts about 2 minutes once they start getting the feeling they are possible pork chops in a room with hungry Lions! LOL!

    So they go from Hostile...to nervous...to worried....to sweating....to having a hart time breathing...back to hostile...then a sort of calm comes over them as at this point they resign to the facts at hand.

    AboveAlpha
     
  11. moon

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    In all my years of Internet political cut-and-thrust I've encountered all manner of delusional males, Walter Mittys , actors, frontmen, droogs and drones , compulsive liars, Rumbos, James Bongs and other assorted keyboard kwackpots. To your credit it has taken me the longest time to decide whether you yourself were fair-dinkum or phoney. Congratulations.
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    Well then I guess I am doing things just right.

    AboveAlpha
     
  13. Gilos

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    You got It wrong..

    The lavrege you spoke about can only affect Israel, the Palestinains get most of their aid from other countries, that's why when the US decides its time for peace talks youll see Bibi wearing his best suits speaking about love and harmony to evey open mic, but the Palestinians are not that affected, in fact a few weeks ago Kerry called the Palestinians to severe their contects with Iran and draw near the US - which means $$$ -and they refused.

    So, in light of that understanding, what would you suggest if only one side is willing to go to the neg table ? surrender to the other side demands ?
     
  14. moon

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    There are no ' sides ' in Palestine, just Zionist invaders and indigenous Palestinians and jews. You speak as if the invaders had rights.
     
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    Nicholas Kristof? Really?

    Just doing a Google search for articles that appear to prove your point isn't doing research..... choosing a Nicholas Kristof article kills off ANY credibility.

    As for Seth Ackerman... where are his sources.... someone writing essentially the same thing you did means you two agree but it isn't substantiation.... Ackerman writes editorials, editorials are not proof, just opinion.

    so the request stands.... PROOF.... not parallel opinions.... PROOF
     
  16. FearandLoathing

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    The bold and red make it all clear....

    All?

    Your hatred for these people is palpable even through the marvels of modern technology. That makes you the bad guy.

    I still ask this, why are you [Americans] there?. Admittedly much of the middle east is barbaric, and primitively feudal. So, why is that a problem for you? The US doesn't have to buy Saudi Oil, despite the environmentalist lies you have more than you need.

    The US does not HAVE to sell weapons to all sides. It has no right to inflict its moral code on anyone and the "cause", to protect freedom is Orwellian bull(*)(*)(*)(*) as you guys surrendered every freedom to Homeland Security 13 years ago. It does not have to be the unilateral policeman.

    Sorry, but what did Iraq ever do to the US? The US was there on a completely false pretext. Hundreds of thousands of people died because the US refused to wait two weeks for Hans the Nuke sniffer to prove WMD's did not exist. Which leads to the next question, was there ANY justification for the invasion of Afghanistan? Considering how badly Bush lied on that one, and how Obama is way less than open and accountable I would not be surprised if the whole business was invented.

    You guys WANTED that war so bad it ached. So, now you have what most of the country wanted and more, and even cleansed it real nice, no body bags, no C-130's spilling coffins, drones and spies doing the dirty work.

    I always hear the excuses that "we" have to do this or that, that the world as we know it will flail and fail unless American blood is spilled in some jungle or desert or sewage infested city somewhere and never, since Woodrow Wilson have we seen the US say "you know what guys? That's none of our business, sort it out yourselves."

    So, lets stop playing victim. Of course when you kill women and children with drone attacks, their families are going to hate you.
     
  17. Ivan88

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    Thanks to Alpha guy for posting the concise description of America's economic power and inventiveness and how it has blessed the world.

    But all that was given to us by "nature's God" to bless mankind with.

    But, instead of contenting to being the Biblical city of Truth, Mercy and Faith to which all nations would come to learn the ways of peace, we decided to squander the treasures God gave us on wars of aggression to enrich the super-rich.

    America and Britain were the most prosperous and powerful nations.
    And the nations copied us.
    We taught the nations war instead of peace.

    In 1815 the European nations met at the Congress of Vienna and agreed to treat each other as brother Christian nations without aggression. In case armed conflict did break out, they agreed to leave civilians out of the battles.
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    But Britain and the USA did not like this agreement. So we waged our wars of aggression. In 1865, the British bombed 2 Japanese cities, Satsuma being one of them. This event inspired the Japanese to a crash course of national armament and expansion. This militarism led Japan to the big war with the USA.
    Our un-civil war - Communist Revolution under Lincoln was so violent that it shocked the Europeans. The US policy was declared as: "We are not fighting against enemy armies, but against an enemy people, both young and old, rich and poor, and they must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as organized armies." This has been US military policy ever since.
    Britain's aggression against Russia, South Africa, etc. also inspired the European nations to go on an armament spree.

    It was mostly our fault. We made the nations drunk with the wine of our inequity. We refused to honor our Divine Mandate spelled out in our Declaration of Independence “to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them,”and to have “a decent respect to the opinions of mankind”

    When the USA slaughtered over a million Philippinos for "democracy" and profits for the insiders, the Japanese noticed.
    When we slaughtered each other and the Native Americans, they noticed......and copied us.

    Here we are well into the 21st Century and we have politicians, preachers, and military guys wanting to continue our gross ugliness in service to the scams of war.

    The sins of others, real or imagined, are not an excuse for the world's greatest nation to stoop to those same sins squared.

    Here's the kind of guy that the US war crazies love:
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    Uncle Sam needs to drink a cup of hemlock just as Socrates once did.
     
  19. Albert Di Salvo

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    Uncle, don't try to fool me. My insight into Chinese immigrants is perhaps deeper than yours. You have not lived most of your life with a Chinese immigrant to Amerika.
     
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    If you want academic material, refer to post 102 and this.
     
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    Here your uncle has to admit you are at least one point up because you have to live all your life with one Chinese immigrant to Amerika.
     
  22. AboveAlpha

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    You have NO IDEA whatsoever just how crazy some people in the world are and you can call the United States War Crazy but if it were not for the U.S....the U.S. Military and the U.S. Intel. Agencies...this world would be a whole lot more dangerous and would have a whole lot more killing going on.

    Does the U.S. act in it's best interest? Of course it does!

    But if you think for ONE MINUTE that any of these other countries if they had the ability would not attempt to dominate the planet in a much more vicious and self serving manner than the United States does you are kidding yourself.

    Case in point.

    If Iran had the capability and be able to get away with it...it would invade the rest of the Middle Eastern Countries and any other country it could.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I believe that the ancient text was talking about a Pomegranate not an apple as first off...there were no apple tree's native to the area that is between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers in what was ancient Mesopotamia and now Modern day Iraq.

    As well...it is IMPOSSIBLE for two people...ie...Adam and Eve...to have the Genetic Diversity to be the sole source of breeding pairs of humans needed to generate a living viable population.

    After a few generation such inbreeding would result in sterile children with birth defects and eventually humans would have died out.

    Nice Story....but that's all it ever was...a story.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You mean God is Joker, and His Word is Joke?
     

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