Time to stop this slavery excuse and let the past go.....

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  1. yasureoktoo

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    LOLOL

    Here is a list of community groups

    http://www.hydepark.org/communityorganizations/index.htm


    Why don't you tell me, who runs the neighborhood.
     
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    "I live in a Jewish neighborhood.
    I know Jews
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    I doubt very seriously you live in a Jewish neighborhood.

    You live in a black ghetto.

    Your whole mentality is black ghetto.
     
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    I live in a Jewish neighborhood, by Temple B’nai Torah in Bellevue Washington.
    It's a nice neighborhood.

    I grew up in a partially Jewish neighborhood in Chicago.
    very similar to Hyde Park.
     
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    LOLOLOL

    So who controls Hyde Park.

    LOLOL
     
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    That sounds like a very interesting book. I'm going to write that title down for future reference.
    The suffering of the freed slaves could have been greatly alleviated if President Andrew Johnson would have been more committed to Reconstruction. He didn't try to help them; Reconstruction ended in 1877.
    The ex-slaves had no education, no money, owned nothing but their clothes. They were helpless. Of course many of them died from disease and starvation. Southern Whites were in bad condition themselves. The ex-slaves were even worse off.
     
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    Very good points. I have argued that as slaves, though the work was not voluntary, the slave owner volunteered clothing, food and shelter to the slave. Set free they were forced to locate subsistence or perish and many perished.
     
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    And in return for clothing, food and shelter the slaves were worked like dogs. They made millions of dollars in profit for their masters, while they lived in abject poverty.
    The least the govt could have done was help the ex-slaves adjust to freedom. Reconstruction should have lasted for a minimum of 100 years. That would have provided enough time for the ex-slaves and their descendants to become educated, gain some financial independence and stabilize their families.
    This is all my humble opinion.
     
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    We in the US army were worked like dogs. I would enjoy reparations myself.
     
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    I don't believe the military can be compared to slavery. But, a few of the escaped slaves did join the Union Army too.
     
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    You don't eh? When were you in the US Army? What shocks many of the pals to the North is how many whites from the South in combat, were attended to by their slaves. Such slaves had a true bond with their masters.
     
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    no we dont

    lol
     
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    I have never been in the military. Several members of my family have, but I haven't.
    Do you believe the White Confederate soldiers were "attended to" by their slaves out of love and devotion? Or was it because they were slaves and didn't have a choice?
    I can't imagine a slave having a "true bond" with their masters. If that was the case, why did so many slaves run away and escape to the North?
     
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    When you look at history, you need all of the history. Normally we get bits and pieces. We may want to ask questions but the books ply us with lies and we forget we did actually have questions. Such as yours about why slaves went to combat with their southern masters and were even burying the dead master upon his death. Why would any slave hang around to bury a man he hated. Slaves were human and some did hate the master but I believe that most did not hate the master. If a man is mean, he will harm anybody, not just a slave. The south had far better manners than did the North. The South tended to get the harder working people in my opinion. There are books about the slaves attending to the needs of the master sent to die for the South and if you get a chance, check into some of them.

    Hundreds of thousands of slaves did leave but their fate is hardly mentioned. Turns out many of them perished since they lost the home they lived at and the food at the homestead.
     
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    The slaves were like cattle, and they needed to be healthy to produce.
    They received some medical and most doubled their lifespans.
    All of their basic needs were taken care of.
    Many lived lives better than their white counterparts.
     
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    I see the masters as we see owners of horses in how one takes care of them. If there was a garden, typical for a farm or a plantation, of course fresh vegetables were there. I have seen the gardens of Mt. Vernon and Monticello and those are not there just to feed the master. But the shelter at Mt. Vernon was decent. And so it was at Monticello.
     
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    I see you have a romanticized view of slavery and the Old South. I never will. One thing I do agree with you on, "the slaves were human". Yes, they were human. One of the greatest tragedies of slavery is that they were not treated as humans.
     
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    Except their White countedeparts were not slaves. Big difference.
    "The slaves were like cattle"---that says it all.
     
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    actually it doesn't say anywhere near "all'.
    They were slaves before they came here, and only 5% of the slaves taken out of Africa came here.
    Millions of blacks benefited from this.
     
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    I do not intend to be romanticising slavery. I compared it to being in our own Army and without you knowing what it was like for us, you denied how it was.

    We should strive for accuracy in history. Take the current president for instance. Democrats will rape him in their history books. Republicans will call out both good and bad about this president. Notice no Democrat calls out the bad for Obama. It is like he is a saint to them. So it depends on who does the history.

    Something when you have time, go to the plantations still there and look over their slave quarters. I want you to imagine they had fresh vegetables. No plantation owner could then run to a supermarket. So food was produced on the site. One won't die on a vegetarian diet. But I have learned that for meat. the least desirable meats could go to slaves.

    We had a far greater tragedy than slavery. Abe the outlaw engaged in deadly combat to the point 630,000 americans died due to his war. And the free slaves also lost hundreds of thousands when being freed, they starved to death or died from diseases. Those deaths are hardly spoken of at all in history.
     
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    Slaves in general first were taken to the islands in the Caribbean. American movie makers deal in fakery. Slaves were captured by blacks living in Africa.
     

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