To be consistant, shouldn't "pro-lifers" call for retroactive prosecution of women...

It rose DRAMATICALLY for several years, so the impact of legalization was a DRAMATIC increase in the rate. Other factors may have tempered the rate afterwards. like the realization that it was the killing of a human being.

 

The number of LEGAL abortions rose because women were getting legal abortions instead of illegal abortions. Several states began liberalizing the abortion laws before RvW, so the number of legal abortions was rising before 1973 when the number of legal abortions jumped. Just look at Canada, with NO abortion regulatory laws AT ALL, they still have lower rates than we do with innumerable regulations on states law books.

 

Canada is not relevant. We are talking about the U.S. where abortions SKYROCKETED after abortion was made legal. you simply cannot escape that fact!

 

Canada is relevant to this question. Do you Canadian women and USA women are different? Please explain. Abortions did not increase after decriminalization. And recriminalization will not affect the numbers significantly either.

 

Canada is not relevant, their laws are different, culture is different, etc.......
now back on topic.

Legalization caused a Dramatic increase in the rate in the U.S. as has been shown to you repeatedly.

 

Canada is relevant. Of course their laws are different, that's the point. The other point is that women are the same in Canada and in the USA. Neither culture nor laws change the basic nature of women. Which is why women have been having abortions for thousands of years despite the legality of abortion.

You have shown your graph repeatedly, but what your graph shows is a slight increase AFTER 1973.

 

I believe any woman who had an abortion, whether legal or not, should be prosecuted if they are now Anti-Choice....it would be IMMORAL to do otherwise...let's set these flip floppers on the road to righteousness!!! Amen!

 

Slight increase? The rate MORE THAN DOUBLED!!!!!

Canada is irrelevant, we have been through this.

 

I repeat, slight increase after legalization. Canada is relevant. I know we have been through this, and I guess we'll continue until you get it. Canadian women are just like USA women. We're the same. We're the same world over.

 

I repeat, IT MORE THAN DOUBLED AFTER 1973! Read the chart.

 

In 1974, the first whole year for abortion to be legal, there were 763,476 legal abortions with 26 deaths from legal abortions and 7 deaths from illegal abortions. In 1980, there were 1,297,606 legal abortions, not double, with 9 deaths from legal abortions and 2 deaths from illegal abortions. Notice that illegal abortions continue despite the availability of legal abortions. So the actual number of abortions has been about the same every year.

http://eileen.undonet.com/

 

We have learned thatw e simply cannot trust your "data" to be accurate so here we go:

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

16.3 on the graph for 1973, 29.3 in 1981.

Ok not quite double but not very far from it!

 

They say abortion is "murder"....there is no statute of limitations on murder.

If a woman has had an abortion...even years ago...even if she NOW claims to be an ardant "pro-lifer".....according to THEIR defintion...she's still guilty of "murder" and must be prosecuted.

 

I will tell you SAM....this is a round about way to call me....the only one here amazingly so....who has had an abortion. They can't bash me personally, or they are not supposed to and they hate my new thread calling them out on the hypocrisy of their position. In fact most pro-aborts WON'T EVEN COME IN TO TAKE THE POLL. They run....

This lynching gang....this is their way or trolling around and starting fights....derailing threads...etc etc.

They know my answer to this...question...but they want to take some focus off of the thread I started that as I said,,,,,the majority won't and can't address.

The position they represent is devoid of anything good. The similarities to what happened in Germany and how the people acted...are so alike it is scary...seriously. The mentality of the position.....cruel beyond words.

I would make one comment about this thread however...and that is this. If you are going to prosecute...the woman then you must find and prosecute all those participants...especially the one that carried the abortion out. The doctors....the nurses....and also those who took the blood money....of course the place it happened would be important.

Actually the woman does the least. She might pay the money...lay on the table...but the killing would not happen if there were no doctors to carry it out. His hands do the killing.
Now I take some responsibility for what I did...and if such was the case that this happened...and they arrested everyone involved in the some 55 million abortions since Roe....then so be it.

 

Why grannie...your posting. Was anxiously looking for your input in ...changing the laws to late term...but you have not been in to cast your vote...LOL Any reason why?

Sure women are the same....but in Canada they have the right to choose...and in America they don't. So it is NOT THE SAME...BETWEEN CANADA AND THE US OR anywhere else. If you want womans rights the same....then our abortion laws need to change....to allow woman options. Whether or not there would be ten a year does not matter...the choice does, so says the pro-aborts.

 

if the law at the time of the event stated that abortion was legal, then she cannot be prosecuted. Why do you guys constantly fixate on nonsense?

 

I didn't say CAN be prosecuted...I said those who say abortion is "murder" should CALL for her to be prosecuted.

or is it not really "murder" if it's legal to you guys???

 

What is the definition of Murder?

If you look it up you will see how moronic a statement "if its legal its not murder to you?" truly is.

You guys and your emotional hysterics are hilarious.

 

Whaler, easy simple questions...asking YOUR opinion, not law, current or otherwise-

1. Do you think abortion is "murder"? Yes or No?

2. Do you think a woman who self-induces an abortion or even with "pre-meditation" deliberately and in a clear state of mind agrees to an abortion.....is committing or being a willing accomplice to a "murder"? Yes or No?

3. Do you believe that "murder" should be prosecuted as crime? Yes or No?

 

I guess it is spoon feeding time again.

Murder means illegal homicide. Obviously abortion is legal so it cannot logically be murder.
Is abortion a homicide? ABSOLUTELY! There is no question.

Again, "murder" no, a homicide? ABSOLUTELY!

Given the fact that "murder" means literally illegal homicide, yes of course I do.

 

Great....last question...again simple Yes or No-

Do you believe there should be a statute of limitations on prosecuting homicide?

 

No, but as I have stated already you cannot prosecute a legal homicide....EVER!

 

Abortion was legal when she had one. Why would I want to prosecute someone for a legal act? How is that even possible?

You seem very confused.

 

Sorry but you simply cannot ask someone about "prosecution" then claim you are not talking about legalities.

I think you have to take into consideration the fraud that has been prepetrated on the women in our society since 1973. All this time they have been conned into beleiving they are not killing a human being. Now we know they have been all along.

Should the hit man (or woman) "doctor" who performed the actual killing be prosecuted without a statute of limitations? ABSOLUTELY!

 

Now...you're screwed. Because you're going to have to start backpedalling again, when I bring up...

prosecution of ACCOMPLICES TO HOMICIDE...and whether you think they should be prosecuted.

Say "No"...and I'll ask why an "abortion homicide" is different from other kinds of homicide and you'll have to explain the "difference". With LOTS of examples of "accomplices" who "didn't commit the act themselves"....and you having to explain why THEY should have been sent to jail....but you want "abortion homicide" accomplices...i.e. the woman having it....to get off scot-free.

Or you say "Yes"....and confirm my premise in my OP.


Choose.