To the anti-abortion people, a question...

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by edna kawabata, Oct 28, 2018.

  1. yiostheoy

    yiostheoy Well-Known Member

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    Great question.

    I guess we humans put a value on it because we want reciprocation.

    Once you establish the given, then you have to ask at what point does it begin?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some of them did. But that zealousness mostly went away by the mid-90s, as pro-lifers kind of resigned themselves to knowing it was going to be a long battle and they might not see change within their lifetime. The height of the pro-choice movement was probably in the mid-70s to late 80s.
     
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  3. FoxHastings

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    EXCUSE ME! """Curious usually means you are gay."" ?!?!?!


    WTF!

    NO, it does not....WHERE did you ever get that idea ?

    And you're off topic...
     
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  4. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So are you saying anti-abortion people no longer believe babies are being murdered?
     
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one can speak to their state of mind. The definition they assign is irrelevant.
     
  6. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I am interested in their state of mind and that is what this thread is about.
     
  7. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They will be happy to tell you. Obviously, they are not attacking abortion clinics because they don't want to go to prison. Another thing they are not doing is adopting unwanted children. Its easier to wear a pro-life hat and shake a fist!
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    A human fetus is a potential human being. A human fetus qualifies for Constitutional rights when it is born.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This planet is grossly and dangeously overpopulated and if, for whatever reason, a woman doesn't want to add to it, it should be her prerogative and nobody else's.
     
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  10. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    That is a good reason to take birth control and a poor reason to get an abortion.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We're not talking about those who practice birth control, we're talking about those who don't?? :roll:
     
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  12. FoxHastings

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    Uh, what?


    It's the same thing....no more kids to add to the population...
     
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    Because birth control is 100% effective?
     
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    Your post a very good and hard question. For me there are a few things I had to think about when you asked the question . First I have to take into account that all life is sacred. To me the child, the toddler, and the adult all have the same value. Second that leads us to "what do you do?" Harming the mother is just as bad as the harm being done to the child. So force is out of the question, which leaves changing the law or changing the mothers opinion. Third there is the legalities, in this country it is legal to do this act and thus it would be protected. So another person cannot really stop the act only delay it.

    With all that in mind the only real option for me is to continue to try and change the culture through dialog, advocacy, protect, and prayer. If I used force or did harm to the mother I would be as wrong as the abortion act. So my actions would not change.
     
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  15. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for seriously thinking about the question and your bravery in answering it.
    To believe the rhetoric of the pro-life people taking the lives of 65 million innocent human beings would be much worse than slavery ever was and a war was fought over that. The pro-life people have an army of millions on their side, knowledge of the locations of the "slaughter houses" and are aware of who the serial murderers are.
    I have a hard time believing that you would sit back and wait and pray if it were toddlers being murdered instead of fetuses being aborted. I find it hard to believe the pro-life people believe a toddler and a fetus is of equal value by the actions or inaction they have taken to stop abortions.
     
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    So you claim Anti-Choicers know
    """of the locations of the "slaughter houses" and are aware of who the serial murderers are."" ???


    Why haven't they called the police?

    Not reporting a crime is against the law...
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I'm starting to worry about you.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    So you claim Anti-Choicers know
    """of the locations of the "slaughter houses" and are aware of who the serial murderers are."" ???


    Why haven't they called the police?

    Not reporting a crime is against the law...


    Why? Because I keep stumping you and you can't answer my questions?


    YOU claim there are slaughter houses and serial killers yet when asked what you are doing about it or asked WHERE this is taking place you don't have an answer....
     
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  19. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Why? Because your reading comprehension seems to be limited.
     
  20. FoxHastings

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    I'll ignore the flamebait ( for now) and answer that your inability to answer pertinent questions about your posts is quite telling...

    ..telling me you hadn't really thought it out nor had proof that there are slaughter houses with serial killers...:).

    If that were true you'd have proof....you have provided none so now have to devolve into insults :)


    Do you have a point on abortion? Or just want to insult posters?
     
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  21. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    My point on abortion is probably obvious to everyone but you.
    Pro-life rhetoric, babies are being murdered, it's a holocaust, etc. does not match their inaction. I believe they actually do not believe their own rhetoric. They actually believe that a fetus has less "worth" then say a toddler. Just like the rest of us. I want them to change my mind.
     
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    What "inaction" are you referring to?

    The bombings of abortion clinics?

    The callous murders of doctors?

    The ongoing legislative war to outlaw all abortions by imposing ever greater incremental restrictions?

    If Mike Pence ever becomes POTUS he will pass an Executive Order making abortion illegal.

    The anti-abortion AGENDA is the opposite of "inaction".

    It is very real and it can be found all over the internet.
     
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    Jayzuz.......there are 30 zillion Threads on this issue......now another pointless entry. Nothing new....all done and dusted.

    :deadhorse:
     
  24. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I would assume if you, a person of good moral character, believed a "holocaust" was happening in your country, where children were being butchered in your city and there were millions of like minded individuals you would do more than pray and complain.
    The AGENDA has been in place 45 years.
    Their relative inaction to their rhetoric tells me they do not believe their own rhetoric or they would be leveling buildings, getting themselves arrested en mass, threatening doctors....
     
  25. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I am new here and you clearly must know the answer to my question. Could you be kind enough to answer it for me and the issue will be settled?
     
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