Too much evidence....

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  1. UntilNextTime

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    Interesting to find that the Biden's have done dealings with the Chinese, yet they're promoted as being the 'enemy'.
    Why so many too? Need to spread your money laundering business around to create shell companies, is that the thing to do if you're as corrupt as they come?
     
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    Double standards? Do you have evidence Joe ordered his staff to pack up classified docs to take with him? That he considered those docs to be his personal possessions. That he failed to comply with a subpoena for the docs? That his lawyers lied about continued possession of the docs? That he instructed staff to hide the docs? That he showed the docs to unauthorized people? That he obstructed an investigation in to the docs?
     
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    I have evidence that he was never the president at that point and that he had far less privilege to those than a president would.

    But I'm sure you probably have some excuse ready for that as well.
     
  6. Lee Atwater

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    Why would I need an excuse for such an ineffectual reply?
     
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    Evidently you don't even have any sort of reply. So you think the vice president is as entitled as the president to retain classified documents?
     
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    Hunter Biden sold ‘illusion of access’ to his father, former business partner tells Congress

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Hunter Biden’s former business partner insisted in testimony to Congress Monday that President Joe Biden was never directly involved in their financial dealings, though Hunter would often put his famous father on speakerphone to impress clients and business associates.

    The Republican-led House Oversight Committee conducted a more than-five hour interview with Devon Archer as part of its expanding congressional inquiry into the Biden family businesses as the GOP explores a potential impeachment inquiry into the president.

    Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers inside the closed-door interview said Archer testified that over the span of 10 years, Hunter Biden put his father on the phone around 20 times while in the company of associates but “never once spoke about any business dealings.”

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...father-former-business-partner-tells-congress

    Interesting that you persist with unsupported allegations.
     
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    I'll go out on a limb and say nothing about the circumstances surrounding Biden's possession of classified docs will prove to be comparable to Trump's case other than the possession of classified docs.
     
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    I'm sure in the case of Joe Biden being the vice president and not having as much privilege to retain said documents..... It was all just a big coincidental misunderstanding and they came into his possession completely accidentally.
     
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    It's a possibility you should prepare yourself for. Of course if that is what the investigation concludes you will no doubt cry foul play/cover up/deep state conspiracy, or regurgitate whatever accusations Don makes.
     
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    What makes sense is people who don't find it interesting, they're the ones wallowing in wackadoodle horseshit!
     
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    What you refer to as horseshit is reality.
     
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    The mainstream media, the government, is what you bow down to that gives you your perception of reality is concerning, as most people are in your sinking boat. The only one drowning in bullshit is you.
     
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    As I'm sure you are aware the gaping hole in your argument is your reliance on sources spewing the same unverified nonsense they've been spewing for months. They re-package it, tie it in a bow, and put it out on the net or the airwaves for the consumption of those who want to be infotained, not informed.

    Not to mention a number of House Crazies are taking this........

    President Biden met with and spoke to his son Hunter’s international business associates on a number of occasions over a decade as Hunter Biden sought to drum up consulting deals, including while his father was vice president, his former business partner told Congress on Monday.

    However, in nearly five hours of closed-door testimony to the House Oversight Committee, Devon Archer, the former partner, asserted that the elder Mr. Biden was not party to any of his son’s business deals and that Hunter Biden had tried to sell the illusion that he was providing access to his powerful father when he was not, according to Democrats on the panel.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/us/politics/hunter-biden-devon-archer.html

    ........and pretending it warrants an impeachment investigation. A notion you no doubt want to spooge in your shorts over even though it has once again been shown the Repubs have nothing.
     
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    Devon Archer Spills The Beans, Some Dems In Desperate Clean Up Mode

    'On Monday, Hunter Biden’s longtime business partner and former friend Devon Archer testified before the House Oversight Committee in a closed-door session and revealed that Joe Biden participated in more than twenty phone calls with Hunter and his business associates and that “the Bidens were in the actual business of influence peddling.”'

    Oh yeah, all those $Millions, all those shell companies, all those Biden's on the take while Bribed Joe was in office.

    'Archer’s bombshell testimony proved that Joe Biden repeatedly lied when he claimed over the years he never spoke with his son about his business.'

    We all know that Bad Fingers Biden was a liar.

    'Joe Biden was repeatedly participating in phone calls with Hunter Biden’s business partners, Archer also revealed that in 2015 Hunter Biden and top executives of Burisma Holdings “called D.C.” to get the Obama administration to pressure the Ukrainian president to fire Inspector General Viktor Shokin, who was investigating Burisma at the time.'

    And "Son of a Bitch" after they paid the Biden's $10M in bribes, Felony Fingers Biden threatened to withhold $1B in US aid. Trump was impeached for simply mentioning it. We'll likely see an impeachment inquiry of Biden for participating in it.

    'According to Archer, Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky and executive Vadim Pozharski “placed constant pressure on Hunter Biden to get help from D.C.” At the time, Joe Biden was the Obama administration’s point man on Ukraine policy, and he traveled to Kyiv, Ukraine, days later calling on the government to root out corruption in the prosecutor’s office. Biden later bragged publicly about using a $1 billion loan as leverage to get Shokin fired.'

    Devon, of course, is merely the first "business partner" of the Bribed Bidens that will be compelled to appear and testify under oath.

    Keep digging. It's important to uncover all this corruption so that the voters can make informed choices in the primaries and general election.
     
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    Archer didn't spill squat:

    Devon Archer, long time Hunter Biden associate, testified. He described that Hunter sold the 'illusion of access', but, in fact, no access was ever given. That's it, and, as Rep Dan Goldman states, (see video, below) there is no proof that Joe Biden was involved with Hunter Biden's deals.

    None.

    Did Hunter Biden leverage the Biden name for personal gain? Yes, but that isn't uncommon for siblings of famous people, and Hunter admitted it and is not illegal.

    Did Hunter commit a FARA violation? Perhaps, but that doesn't prove any wrongdoing on Joe Biden.

    Did Hunter Biden lie on a gun background check application? Yes, but that doesn't prove any wrongdoing on Joe Biden.

    In fact, there is no proof of Joe Biden corruption, nor even for Hunter, for that matter. A few process violations, and that is it. Have fun prosecuting the son of a US President, who, on a rebound from the death of his brother,. made some bad choices. I doubt that a jury would convict. You see,. folks, this is why US Attorney David Weiss, after five years of investigating Hunter Biden, hasn't brought charges, he doesn't think he can win in court. That doesn't have anything to do with 'sweetheart' treatment, it's called 'prosecutorial discretion.

    And, for that matter, name one private citizen who never held office who was assigned a special prosecutor for a 5 year investigation whose name wasn't Hunter Biden?

    That doesn't sound like the 'sweetheart' treatment, to me.


    Hunter Biden associate describes "illusion of access"
    https://www.axios.com/2023/07/31/devon-archer-testify-hunter-biden

    A former Hunter Biden associate told Congress that Hunter sold "the illusion of access" by putting his father on speaker phone with business partners, but that then-Vice President Biden never talked shop, according to Rep. Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) and a source familiar with the testimony.

    Why it matters: Top Republicans called for an impeachment inquiry into President Biden ahead of Devon Archer's closed-door testimony Monday — and suggested that he boosted their case — while Democrats said there was no smoking gun tying Biden to his son's business entanglements.

    Zoom in: Archer, who was convicted of fraud in 2018, testified that Hunter put his father on the phone with friends and business associates roughly 20 times over 10 years.


    • But Archer "repeated over and over and over again that President Biden never discussed any business dealings or interests with Hunter or anyone else," Goldman told reporters after the hours-long transcribed interview.
    • Republicans cast doubt on the claim that Biden simply exchanged "niceties" during the phone calls. They also focused on Archer's testimony that embattled Ukrainian gas company Burisma wanted Hunter on its board for his family's "brand."
    The intrigue: Archer testified that he knew nothing about the alleged $5 million bribes paid to the Biden family from a Burisma executive, as was claimed in an unverified FBI document touted and released by Republicans, according to one source familiar.

    Rep Dan Goldman: "This is a fishing expedition".

     
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    I wonder why Congress and the Senate have an interest in Biden's affairs, for infotainment. auiqs.jpg.gif

    How did mainstream media handle the Hunter Biden laptop narrative? There's no laptop. A year later, there's a laptop. Now that's infotainment.
     
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    Your claim is fake news. Devon made no such claim.

    Desperate Corrupt DOJ and Bidens trying to bury everything in a plea deal, that is on hold.

    House Launches Probe Into Hunter Biden's Absurd Plea Deal

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    '"Atypical" features...'

    They are trying to bury Hunter's felonies to protect Bribed Biden.

    'The House has launched an investigation into Hunter Biden's sweetheart plea deal from his father's Justice Department, which was so egregious that a judge sent it back to the drawing board.'

    'the House committees conducting a probe into the agreement say parts of it were "atypical" to the point where the lead federal prosecutor was forced to admit under questioning that there was no precedent for this type of arrangement.'

    Keep digging, and launch an impeachment inquiry if the corrupt DOJ and the Bribed Biden Administration refuse to produce requested evidence.

    It's important that the voter have as complete of a picture as possible, of the filth and corruption that infests the criminal Biden Administration.
     
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    I'm sure you don't. I'm sure you understand congressional Repubs are using Hunter's unethical, illegal behavior as a cudgel to try to pin something on his dad. As you show with each post you write, theirs is a cynical strategy that is working. They know right wing media will take disparate scraps of dung, shake them up, and put them out so folks like yourself can adopt them as part of the mountain of dung you take to be the truth.
     
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    On Hannity, he asked Comer:

    Do you have evidence against Joe Biden?

    Comer replied:

    "I hope so".

    That answer is incontrovertible proof that he has nothing on Joe.

    So.....

    Keep dreaming.

    Rep Dan Goldman stated that Archer did not implicate Joe.

    When we have the transcripts, you'll see the truth.

    In the mean time, dream on.

    You make a big deal out of Joe deny knowledge of his son's business.

    Joe isn't as articulate as Obama is. He means that he's not involved with the intricacies of his son's dealings nor is he aware of them. Of course he had a cursory knowledge, it's been all over the news for years. But that isn't illegal.

    But, according to the right, it's a big deal and of course, they will continue to make a mountain of hay out of a single straw, but meanwhile, Trump could lay a turd on your plate, and you'd call it a chocolate banana sundae and slurp it on down,.

    And while you are slurping on that Trump turd sundae

    Suck on this:

    Trump has some 80 felony counts, and more coming.

    Cya in court, you know, the one where Trump is being INDICTED.
     
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    It's difficult to fathom the degree of imbecility the constituents of Rep. Andy Biggs possesses considering he heard this...........

    However, in nearly five hours of closed-door testimony to the House Oversight Committee, Devon Archer, the former partner, asserted that the elder Mr. Biden was not party to any of his son’s business deals and that Hunter Biden had tried to sell the illusion that he was providing access to his powerful father when he was not, according to Democrats on the panel.

    .........but came out of the Archer interview saying that testimony implicated the president directly. “I think we should do an impeachment inquiry.” What kind of morons send partisan hacks like Biggs to Congress?
     
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    The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Now how do you suppose Hunter got into illegal activities, his dad perhaps? Yes.

    Left, Right-wing media, pfft. Now you know why I choose alt news, they're not driven by profit or which way a narrative should go.

    That pile of dung, don't you eat too much, there won't be any room for deasert.

    Evidence Of Biden Burisma Corruption Is Overwhelming
    The Biden Family Crime Syndicate Exposed
    Biden Family Scandals Are So Much Bigger Than Hunter's Hookers
    High-level Government officials covering up evidence of Biden family corruption
    13 Times Joe Biden Was Involved in Family Business Corruption
    Susan Shelley: The Biden family’s corruption scandal is only just beginning
    New ‘Astonishing’ Info Released on Biden Family Corruption
    Kevin McCarthy says Biden could face impeachment after new family corruption revelations
    BREAKING: Reporters FINALLY demand answers from White House on Biden family corruption
    Biden Family Corruption Is Being Covered Up, and It All Leads to Joe

    It's amazing what real investigative journalism uncovers, unlike mainstream media's regurgitated scripted puke.
    The list is but a fraction of what I found. Can't say the same you'll find anything similar by MSM.
     

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