Totalitarianism in Europe Isn't Dead: Hungary Is a Disgrace for Europe!

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  1. Paris

    Paris Well-Known Member

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    You have already said that several times here.

    So are those wearing suits and ties, but you could not notice.

    LOL @ "we couldn't get back to Belgium"...you were in Spain, son, not on some far away planet...and if you worry so much about your "supervised" minors's ids, why didn't you collect them?
     
  2. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Hey Mr. SmartyPants,...

    I had multiple reasons not to collect them,...

    1° They weren't my dogs, if they wanted some time without my co-leader and myself they were allowed to do so... they need their ID on their own.

    2° In Spain, when you buy something with your normal bank card, you always need to show your ID at the same time. In Belgium you only have to do that when you pay with a creditcard (Visa, etc.).

    3° small story: you remember my story about my fabulous first trip to Berlin? Back in 2007, from when I was upgraded to business class, I was allowed into the cockpit during landing, etc...

    => Anyways, the plan was to take the U-Bahn from Tempelhof to Friedrichstrasse and there change trains (S-bahn) and get off at the Hackescher Market where we needed to be. I had it all figured out, I still remember it. My friend, who is a photographer, wanted to take pics from Tempelhof and I went to the monument (for the so-called "Luchtbrug" at the beginning of the Cold War when Stalin shut-off Berlin) in the park in front of the airport.

    So we took the U-Bahn, and when we were on it -- the first thing that happened: "Gutentag, [German guy talks really fast and shows me a badge]".

    I was p-a-n-i-c-k-i-n-g!

    What did this guy want from me?! Didn't he wanted to rob me?

    *go away! go away!* I was thinking.

    He wanted to see my ticket for the U-Bahn... and some ID.

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    So, a long story short...

    I told my members to seperate their ID from the rest of their wallets, to put the wallet in their bagage and their ID in their pants and they -- AT ALL TIMES -- had to put their hand in their pants on their ID cards.

    So their ID where in their pants together with their metro-ticket.

    Little did I know that those filthy thieves would go after them when they were pulling their luggage!!! It's difficult to put your hands in your pants while you are pulling your luggage.

    Imagine the stress I was under.

    I thought I did everything in my power, to reduce my stress level, to safe-guard my members and those little (*)(*)(*)(*)ers (thieves) went after them when they were pulling their luggage!

    BTW -- it might sound a bit extreme their hands in their pants pockets at all time, but it was only from the airport to our final destination (took about 45m. - 1h).
     
  3. Paris

    Paris Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I would hate to be one of your supervisees: I'm sure to disobey you, most of the times...
     
  4. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    That's very offensive indeed, Paris.

    BTW -- my members listened pretty well and I gave them a lot of freedom anyways... we really had a blast in Barcelona...
     
  5. Paris

    Paris Well-Known Member

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    Offensive? It is a bit extreme to tell people to keep their hands in their pants pockets at all time, especially if they also carry some luggage...as a teen I already made sure to disobey such silly order

    But I'm glad you had a blast despite your little panic.
     
  6. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    It wasn't an order...

    I gave them a very reasonable explanation and they agreed to do it...

    And, that's the thing... they didn't had their hand in the pocket of their trousers whilst pulling and carrying their luggage.

    It was the only possible "weak moment" that the thieves could strike, and they went for it.

    Thing is, they weren't even "classy" thieves -- they went full force, very publicly: *woop* their hand in your front pocket.

    As if it were normal...

    It was so unreal...
     
  7. Paris

    Paris Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, thieves in suits and ties are much more classy...when we realise we've been robbed, some are even having beach cocktails on distant islands
     
  8. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Are you working the night shift at the hotel or something, Yann?!

    Anyways, I'm going to have a smoke and then go to sleep...

    I think it actually is funny we share first names... I mean, they are pronounced the same way, no?! :omg: :) :trout:
     
  9. Paris

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    Yea, and something.

    Again?

    I suppose. Mine is Celtic:shamrock:
     
  10. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Sleepwell, Yann...

    (You are in bad mood as it seems...)
     
  11. Paris

    Paris Well-Known Member

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    I am not in a bad mood Jan, cheer up!

    If you go out to smoke, have you seen how beautiful Sirius is, in a clear winter night? It sits quietly at Orion's feet, very inspiring.

    Sweet dreams
     
  12. BoiaChiMolla

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    Hungary is one of the last proud countries in Europe, probably along with Croatia and Serbia.
    I wish more european countries would be as Hungary.
     
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    and yet you somehow totally forgot on by far biggest genocide on Balkans...i wonder why .
     
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    Finally! I am not the only one any more who realizes that the countries with LESS national pride are a LOT more valuable than all the (disgraceful) others.
     
  15. waltky

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    Granny says dey's a buncha Commies...
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    Hungary’s new constitution seen as threat to democracy
    Tuesday, January 17, 2012 — Karoly Meszaros is a Budapest taxi driver who always voted socialist until he heard some leftist lawmakers talking about stealing money from the public, as he drove them to parliament one day.
     
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    Uncle Ferd says, "An' dey's a buncha broke Comunists at that...
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    Hungary Crisis Stokes Fears of Debt Contagion
    January 18, 2012 - The European Union is launching legal action against Hungary over new legislation passed in Budapest, which the EU claims breaks European law. The Hungarian laws covering regulation of the central bank, the judiciary and the governments' data protection office took effect on New Year's Day.
     
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    How can they change the consitution like that only with parliament approval? I would think that a referendum should take place, so that people can approve that.
     
  18. tamora

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    The UK government doesn't need parliamentary approval to change the constitution here. Maybe the Hungarian government doesn't either.
     
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    Yes, obviously it doesn't. My point is that maybe there should be a constraint like that.
     
  20. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Yeah,...

    The UK hasn't have a written constitution to begin with, so asking approval to change that fantasy constitution would be sort of unnecessary. :twocents:

    :peace:
     
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    They have many written constitutional documents, it's just not codified.
     
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    Legal documents don't make a constitution...
     
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    ryanm34 New Member

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    Why? Because you say so?

    Edit Now that I reread your post I am struck by the absurdity of your reasoning.

    What else is a constitution but a legal document?
     
  24. janpor

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    No, common sense does. And Aristotle.

    And Leo2 does too. I didn't knew that the UK didn't have a constitution, until he made a post about a year or two ago...

    I was so surprised to learn that, that I remember like it was yesterday.
     
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    The UK has a constitution.

    Here a whole Wikipedia page on the "fantasy" British Constitution.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_Kingdom

    And while you are at it the definition of the word Constitution.

    That the British never got around to codifying the principles and that they are scattered over many documents does not mean that the UK doesn't have a constitution.

    No the constitution is not 'written', in that it is not all gathered together into one document titled the 'British Constitution'. Their are still a large body of British constitutional documents that together with long held parliamentary conventions form the constitution.

    The British have a constitution.
     

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