Truly Grim, Authoritarian Inauguration

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  1. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    False. How on Earth could anyone possibly believe that Trump, who spoke directly with the public daily subverting the Corporatist Pravda Press, started 0 wars, thumbed the nose of large corporate giants, cancelled many duplicitous regulations and government graft troughs, cut taxes especially on middle working people, was any kind of "authoritarian" after watching the obscene CCP spectacle in Washington today? China is ecstatic with their viral-mail in ballot scam, and with their newly bought country.

    Save the vague definitions. Trump was only an "authoritarian" in bizarro world.
     
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    And check this out.

    Wow, Politico Is No Longer Covering Up Biden’s Cognitive Decline.

    On the eve of his inauguration, Politico published an article that contains an anecdote that is actually quite disturbing.
    Ouch.
     
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    The definition was very specific, and it fit Trump to the letter.

    Trump favored and enforced strict obedience to government authority at the expense of personal freedom.

    Trump was a nationalist and certainly was not civil libertarian. And while I agree today's proceedings was a spectacle, that deflection and whataboutism in no way detracts from those facts.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    What's troubling is turning exhaustion into a cognitive conspiracy theory.
     
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    No. But a bunch are in jail.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    The vague, abstract definition you posted is right there on the page, so no idea who you are trying to con with the above. It's vague, abstract, general that could fit your, my or anyone's daily behavior into "authoritarian." Hence, it's of little use.

    For example, "I spanked my kid today for back-talking his mother. I guess I'm an authoritarian because some summary definition someone found on the net defined 'authoritarian' as 'favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority."

    Googling up summary, broad and vague definitions of anything from the internet and then claiming "X did that, so X is Y" is fallacious, seen too often here, and approaching circularity when the definition is vague enough. Most people on a political forum have a pretty good idea of what the term "authoritarian" means in -political systems- already, and define it via -specific- state or other actions. Moreover, with respect to highly abstract words such as "authoritarianism" they are

    How.... SPECIFICALLY... did he do that? He did not.

    You... haven't... posted... any... facts. You claimed an equivalence between Trump and Biden in terms of "authoritarianism" and you did not support it in any reasonable way... likely because we both know it is not true. And valid comparisons of things, such as comparisons between Trump's and Biden's Inaugurations, or other things in the same class is not "whataboutism."

    @thread I have been using the term "authoritarian" ironically in threads and posts for awhile, and that is backlash to LW inaccurate use of the term in bogus ways. I'd prefer that such "ism," "ian," "ist" highly abstract terms were highly restricted because as the this post evidences, they are constantly misused.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    O, what did the "terrorists" blow up? How many people did they kill directly with their "terrorist attacks," mass shootings, bombings, bioweapons, etc.? Did they cut off anyone's heads?
     
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    LOL, it was missing the riots and burning in DC by leftist.
     
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    I'm not bitter, but I am amused. Not having voted for Trump either time, but being painfully aware of the election fraud perpetrated by the MSM and others, I cannot help but compare the Inauguration of King Joseph to the old tale about The Emperor's New Clothes.
     
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    I didn't keep track. Did you?
    But I did just see where some of them Proud Bois and Oath Keepers were arrested.
    Conspiracy. I think that's kinda serious isn't it?
     
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    Personally I thought it was a fantastic Inauguration given the fact we are in the midst of the worst pandemic in over 100 years. Biden's speech was one of the best I've ever heard. Back to the business at hand - your definition of "achieving unity" is that the Biden administration must continue all the policies of the Trump administration? Where did I first hear this patently ridiculous notion, oh wait, it was Ainsley Earhardt on FOX news this morning.......I'm still LMAO :roflol:
     
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    Unity is gained by respecting one's opposition. His words promote unity his actions do the opposite. Rushing to his office to undo Trump before the engine of the car that took him there was cooled is an example. Acta non verba.
     
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    In fact, even if he WOULD continue all of Trump's policies, they'd still whine about him being in the pocket of China and destroying the US. You can't win with those people.
     
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    You can't win with anybody you disrespect.
     
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    Projection? Explain, please.

    Crazy Nancy
    Sleepy Joe
    Crooked Hillary
     
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    Just as Trump undid Obama policies. The difference is many of Trump's policies are unwelcome, depending on your point of view, lol. Of Biden's 17 executive actions, only 9 undo a Trump policy. The other things is Biden's team is far more prepared and ready to govern at this early stage than Trump's group. One thing Biden knows, true 100% unity can never be achieved, what he's hoping for is enough Americans can find some common ground and drag the rest, left & right, along for the ride. Further, just as many agreed 4 years ago, elections have consequences and based on recent behavior, Biden is far more in favor of democratic principles than Trump ever was. If anyone can achieve some semblance of decency I'm betting on Biden and his administration......the alternative is unthinkable.
     
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    Dodge. That Trump Supporters at the Capitol were "domestic terrorists" is a lie, now proven irrefutably to be a lie.
     
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    He already canceled the oil pipeline. That is billions of dollars of private equity just liquidated. That order alone could bankrupt my company. I wish there were a way that we could get at academics jobs/careers. Sinecures have to end.
     
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    You don't have to worry about the alternative. The right isn't aggressive enough to take power from the left. They have always been wimpy in politics compared to the left.
     
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    What is to explain? You can't have unity without respect. I didn't say it is only true in one direction. There isn't going to be any unity. We have to do the best we can without it.
     
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    You need to explain where on earth you see disrespect coming from Biden. Did Joe call Mitch a turtle?
     
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    No. He rushed to the white house after his unity speech to start signing anti-unity orders. He could have waited a few days. It wouldn't have hurt him at all. He could have explained why killing the XL pipeline would benefit anything while it kills jobs and raises fuel prices. He just killed it out of spite. He killed the wall, something the border patrol said was important for doing their job. He disrespected the nation by promoting illegal immigration in the hopes that it will lead to more democrat votes. I view it as disrespect. You view it as heroism. It is what it is.
     
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    Mhhm. Over the target again.
     

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