Trump administration deporting critically ill children

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They're in our governments care because their government doesn't care.
     
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    You are incorrect. There are critically ill children inside the US and we are responsible for them. There are critically ill children outside of the US. Are the lives of these children less valuable if there in an ocean in between?

    Those claiming to care about these children better be prepared to show how they have been helping them before using their little lives for political points. Otherwise they are only revealing their true intentions.
     
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    Some here are confused and will not be allowed to move the goal posts.

    We are only talking about critically ill children in our government's care, not any other children, being deported.

    That is morally wrong, period. Those who support it are supporting a morally wrong government action. Shame.
     
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    Pay Wall. Can't read the article
     
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    Critically ill citizens we should help and we do help. No one is refused care if they’re dying. Critically ill illegals however, pounding down our doors should be the least of our concerns. Making it VERY clear that coming here sick is not an option. And frankly making it clear that if you’re here illegally, you shouldn’t be given expensive care either, reserved for citizens and paid for by citizens.
     
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    They are not illegal. They have been granted legal status for the duration of necessary medical treatment.

    These are mostly children who will die if sent home, where health care is sketchy at best. Is their legal status the only thing you care about? If they're illegal, let them die? Really? Would you say that to a dying child directly? It's easy to say that anonymously and at a distance, but would you have the stones to say it face to face? I bet not.
     
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    I read the article. Citizens FIRST.

    **** 'em.

     
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  8. Sleep Monster

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    Read the OP again. They passed it off to ICE when questioned, and ICE responded with a negative, no idea what USCIS was talking about. USCIS seems to have thought to do this under the radar, but underestimated public scrutiny.
     
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    I find it truly disgusting that so many of our fellow Americans will defend this president no matter what his administration does, and simply do not care about the lives of sick children.

    I guess they think that all of the children in question are brown, therefore who cares? They are all truly ugly on the inside, just like their hero, Donald Trump.
     
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    You know what I find disgusting?

    People taking essentially the same risks to get here, for whatever reason .. illegally, that they would face if they Revolted in their own countries, and made those places better.

    Give me your tired and Blah blah blah, is a ****ING poem, not policy.

    As a matter of fact, if you read that poem, you'll find they go to a GOLDEN DOOR.
     
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    These are children who will die without this care, and please take a reading comprehension class ... they have legal status. Stupid and mean are a bad combination, Paul. How sick do you have to be to wish death on innocent children?

    BTW, I'm not defining what America is to you, I'm talking about the America I love not living up to its long-standing image as the beacon of light in the world, as I was taught growing up. Cruelty was never what we stood for. IMO the founders would be disgusted if they could see us now.
     
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    They. Are. Not. Illegal.

    FFS, read much?
     
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    Do you have children? What would you not do if their lives were in danger?

    This isn't a gate of any sort. Not that many terminally or critically ill children are part of this program. Most of them will die if care is discontinued. Is that really okay with you? As you said, Holy crap!
     
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    The children are not illegal.
     
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    Oh FFS! The children's hospitals that provide care for these children are the very hospitals where your children would also receive free care. Medicaid applies to some of it, but most children's hospitals provide free medical care paid for by donations. I donate to St. Jude's every year. Don't you?

    I'm feeling St. Jude's pain reading some of the right wing comments on this thread. St. Jude is the patron saint of lost causes, a term I can easily apply to the righties on this forum.

    Sheesh.
     
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    Yes they are. They are children of illegals, who HAD been granted temporary status because they're sick.

    FFS, Comprehend much?
     
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    I said it was the attitude of Trumpers that will sink Trump.
     
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    Who's gonna beat him? :D
     
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    Yes. 2 kids. I don’t imagine myself in horrible hypothetical situations or try to solve the insolvable. By that logic we should be flying in millions of sick and dying from all over the world. How can you possibly live with yourself knowing millions are dying all the time because they don’t have proper healthcare? I don’t fret over things that don't generally effect me and aren’t my responsibility.

    But knowing illegals are here using MY tax dollars and exploiting us, when their own countries should be taking care of them, upset me more than any of their plights. Their sickness bothers my less than the corruption and apathy of their home countries.

    I won’t worry for them. I can’t worry about them. I care about MY family and MY friends and neighbors.
     
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    the Trump admin tells people to do things, then blames them when it hits the fan

    it's no wonder so many refuse to follow his orders
     
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    Oh yeah ... as to that last paragraph: how would you like it if your child had a terminal illness, and your only way to save that child was to let some strangers adopt it? How would you like to have to make such a choice?

    And this is not "anchoring." Can you imagine how much harder it would be to deal with a catastrophic illness if you were a five year old and were ripped away from your mother, the only person who loves you?

    Cruelty. And the righties are just effing fine with it. That disgusts me, and it should disgust anyone with a conscience.
     
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    No American child is neglected as a result of this program. FFS.
     
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    Maybe Trump is trying to "impress" his base?

    Trump must think that he can gain votes by increasing the casualties of the "Trump Body Count"?
     
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    None of that has anything to do with this issue. That's the most lame application of whataboutism I've ever seen.

    This is about critically and terminally ill children who will die if care is discontinued, as it will be if we deport them. They are not illegals. Their medical care does not cause any American children to be neglected. Very little tax money in the form of medicaid is used for this program, since most of these children are at children's hospitals that do not charge for care, and are supported by donations.
     
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    Even one penny is too much.
    Just encouraging more to come, for more free ****.
     

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