Trump Administration Sues California Over Immigration Laws

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    Complete BS. If ICE has a federal warrant out for their arrest and the local jurisdictions ignore it, that's breaking the law. You did know you can and will be arrested during a casual stop if you have outstanding warrants?
     
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    Luggs, this isn't just a state's right issue. The state of California, along with many municipalities, find that by not targeting illegals that they get better cooperation and community participation from not just the illegals but the Hispanic community at large. It's better that people come forward to witness crimes for example than to remain silent for fear of deportation of themselves or their friends. It was better that DACA kids went to college, trade school or into the military rather than join an underground that could lead to not just their lives wasted but others as well. Sanctuary cities are misnamed, they are not sanctuaries at all. If you get arrested your prints and info get sent to the Feds just like everywhere. In California, if you commit a violent crime, participate in gang activity or any crime against a child then your butt will be held for deportation because no community wants you there.
    California laws do not prevent the Feds from enforcing federal law. Sessions doesn't have a leg to stand on.
    Part 2. For those that don't know, Luggs believes illegals are treated as slaves because employers exploit their status. A certain amount of truth but incomplete. If your solution is that they be forced to leave because of their harsh lifestyles you neglect to note that they can do that voluntarily anytime they wish. Second, assuming they choose to risk staying, which gives them a better chance at improving their lot? Staying deep in the shadows because they can trust no one or having at least some safety from persecution in a sanctuary state/city?
     
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    California has outstanding warrants? Who knew?
     
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    Tell that to the FBI when they issue a warrant and some local yokel has them in custody and then releases them. :roflol:
     
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    So two things. perhaps you are unfamiliar with the activities of sanctuary cities because you don't live in one. Your observation that arrested thugs are being turned over, is well, documented as being incorrect here. I would also contend that since I live in a city that has sanctuary policies, that having witnessed the unwillingness of the local organizations here having actively circumvented the collaboration effort with federal law enforcement that the more correct version of your statement is to say that the collaboration is purposefully broken.

    As for part 2. No, I am not inferring that illegals are being exploited because of their status. I am suggesting that there is, in fact, an illegal slave trade, human trafficking component to the illegal immigration conversation that indentures or enslaves those within it to those who then use them in construction, or prostitution, or the transportation of drugs that the sanctuary policies protect. There is also a very high proportion of illegal activity as a result of this support of illegal status within the sanctuaries themselves that results in significant harm to the localities as a result. Which, I contend, is by design.
     
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    IOW, you never wanted the answer. Thanks for clearing that up.

    Which hasn't got a damn thing to do with anything I said.

    Which of course is precisely what I'm advocating.

    It isn't a states' rights issue at all. In fact, the Confederate states had a more colorable states' rights claim that CA does.
     

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