Trump: Americans should wear masks whether they like them or not

Stop making excuses for individual irresponsibility.

You cannot grasp what is fundamental. Your processor has the virus . Not covid but one that is more destructive.

So individuals are responsible for nothing! What a pile of BS. And as illogical as anything can be.

So, does an individual even exist in your topsy turvy world? Or is there two Borg's? The left Borg and the right Borg?

Clearly in your alternative reality responsible and irresponsible individual behavior doesn't exist at all. And that is fundamental BS. It's insanity.

 

Hey, everyday I read how much worse it is getting in those states that ignored the warnings.

 

It's not an excuse at all. It's a fact that individual behavior is the root cause of the spread. It cannot be any other way. Or if the spread was minimized by using common sense then that too is attributed to individual behavior..

Why is that difficult for anyone to comprehend. Something seems to be blocking the logical.

I didn't intentionally insult you or made it just about you. I was speaking of the group that can't comprehend the self evident. That irresponsible individual behavior is the root cause of increased speed. And responsible individual behavior minimizes it.

Now you could say that it looks like the most irresponsible people are red states and that would be in line with my contentions about individual responsibility and the spread. The blame at the root is the individual. Yet you argue that this isn't a fact. Which is just absurd. Because you must blame the GOP or Trump. But they didn't spread it, individuals not using common sense did. The individual using free will made the choice . And made the wrong choice. Apparently the people as individuals also made the wrong choice early on as well. Being
irresponsible.

My intent was simply to say individuals being responsible or irresponsible matters a helluva lot. And that is where the buck stops. And this has something to do with the rates of infection in all countries. That isn't a revolutionary idea! In fact most people would not argue against it.

 

It's not an excuse at all. It's a fact that individual behavior is the root cause of the spread. It cannot be any other way. Or if the spread was minimized by using common sense then that too is attributed to individual behavior..

Why is that difficult for anyone to comprehend. Something seems to be blocking the logical.

I didn't intentionally insult you or made it just about you. I was speaking of the group that can't comprehend the self evident. That irresponsible individual behavior is the root cause of increased speed. And responsible individual behavior minimizes it.

Now you could say that it looks like the most irresponsible people are red states and that would be in line with my contentions about individual responsibility and the spread. The blame at the root is the individual. Yet you argue that this isn't a fact. Which is just absurd. Because you must blame the GOP or Trump. But they didn't spread it, individuals not using common sense did. The individual using free will made the choice . And made the wrong choice. Apparently the people as individuals also made the wrong choice early on as well. Being
irresponsible.

My intent was simply to say individuals being responsible or irresponsible matters a helluva lot. And that is where the buck stops. And this has something to do with the rates of infection in all countries. That isn't a revolutionary idea! In fact most people would not argue against it.

 

So the people of TX and FL are irresponsible, got it

 

Nothing personal intended.


This virus, its spread is dependent upon personal behavior. That in large part explains the difference in rate of spread in various nations. Those where individuals were more responsible in following common sense fair better. Those where it is worse is due to irresponsible behavior. This isn't a revolutionary idea. Most people wouldn't argue against it.

Many of the States now in the south where its exploding is attributed to irresponsible personal behavior. So at the root its the irresponsibility of the individual. Yet you disagree . Its so fundamental what I said that to disagree looks like politics and bad politics.

Perhaps because you must blame trump. And me maintaining the root cause is personal responsibility or the lack of it , which is a fact got you riled up. Or so it appears.

But the fact is the buck stops at the individual and his behavior. He can be responsible and minimize the spread or irresponsible and help in maximizing the spread. I didn't make this red or blue but looked beyond that. .

 

Yeah, people in the south are irresponsible.

 

Lol. So now it makes sense huh?

Its all about individual behavior. Just basic common sense. But you had a big problem with it. Until you realized it could fit within your partisan mindset? Lol

 

I was being sarcastic.

 

A lady walked by me and said “no mask?” I said no underwear either!

 

This blaming pattern ensures that things will never be solved as there is always a way to deflect. And no government leaders are mandating masks or really saying anything as they don’t want to take a stand. Politics and the gamesmanship that takes precedent over human suffering is on fuller display than usual. But people will only see what they want to see.

 

Yes, some are. Most individuals in Texas are making good decisions, wearing masks, social distancing, avoiding crowds, and minimizing unnecessary trips.

Dallas, TX. Going on daily for almost 60 days now.

 

A few individuals, choosing to gather in groups, while the majority of people make responsible choices cause spikes in the spread...and kill grandma/grandpa.

 

A mask does nothing to prevent the spread of the virus. If some are foolish enough to think it protects them, they should be free to wear them. For those who know better, they should be free not to wear them.

We will not have a free and open society until we are freed from the mask mandate.

 

'Should' =\= 'Must'

I don't really care what Trump recommends. I avoid wearing one where possible primarily because I hate being told what to do almost as much as I hate attempts at shaming me into doing it.

Trump has yet to do either.

 

I am sure about that. I was being sarcastic to another poster due to his assertion that only the individuals are causing the spread of the virus.

 

I am sure they are, I was being sarcastic to another poster.

 

From what I could glean from the OP, Trump stated that we "should" wear one "if" we can't social distance; which is a far cry from mandating that anyone "must" wear one.

 

Common sense to one is folly to another. Mandating either one is an exercise in futility, which is why our nation has become as divided as it has. We have to learn to live with our differences, instead of trying to herd everyone into the same corner. Freedom begins with the individual, and it ends with statism.

 

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Yet with freedom comes responsibility. Freedom is a desired goal and it can exist as long as individuals are responsible members. With irresponsible individual behavior comes mandates and law.

Be nice if all were responsible but that isn't the case.

 

Masks will help protect the vulnerable from the trump virus.
Only fools tried to make wearing masks a political issue.

 

sharia law is political, it makes that clear in its name.

https://theconversation.com/we-are-...reveal-hypocrisy-of-face-covering-bans-136030

 

Then don't be fooled again.

“Face Masks

In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2). One study evaluated the use of masks among pilgrims from Australia during the Hajj pilgrimage and reported no major difference in the risk for laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection in the control or mask group (33). Two studies in university settings assessed the effectiveness of face masks for primary protection by monitoring the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among student hall residents for 5 months (9,10). The overall reduction in ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza cases in the face mask group was not significant in either studies (9,10).”
Volume 26, Number 5—May 2020, Policy Review, Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures, Jingyi Xiao1, Eunice Y. C. Shiu1, Huizhi Gao, Jessica Y. Wong, Min W. Fong, Sukhyun Ryu, and Benjamin J. Cowling, Author affiliations: University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

 

YES! To be true Americans we should throw all our garbage in the street, drive 80 no matter where we are, not pay taxes, go naked wherever we feel like it (NOBODY can tell US what to wear !!!)….defecate on the sidewalk, don't vaccinate our children and delight in their FREE illnesses, sell any food we want to without proper cleanliness methods or safety guidelines(NOBODY can tell US how to have safe food!!!), let our dogs run free and bark forever, never stop for pedestrians, never stop ...etc. WE want to be BARBARIANS and NOT have anyone tell US what to do, we are arrogant, self centered, STUPID AMERICANS....and we are TOO weak to put a cloth covering over our face..






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