Trump calls on black NASCAR driver to apologize over noose protest

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  1. dairyair

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    The started a war with the USofA.

    That is the very definition of traitor. They went to war with the USA so they could continue to OWN BLACK people.

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    1: one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty
    2: one who commits treason

    They didn't just betray the USA, they went to war with the USA.

    They needed to be hung or whatever the punishment was back in the 1860s for treason.
    Not be made into hero's and have statues made to idolize the traitors.

    There were pardoned as traitors. Meaning they escape penalties for their crimes.
    But they are still traitors.
    Stop idolizing traitors.



    Look at what Dylan Roof thought about the traitor flag. And what it represents to him.
    And there are many in the south who feel as Roof does.

    That's why the traitor flag and statues need to go.
     
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    My post totally debunked what you just posted as your personal opinion. They did not commit treason. The Union invaded the Confederacy with the goal to destroy it not the other way around and the Union started it by occupying and reinforcing Ft. Sumter with the intent to be able to blockade the port. Slavery was legal IN THE UNITED STATES, before, during and after the war and the Union did NOT invade the Confederacy in order to free slaves so stop with that canard.

    And I notice you avoided comment on Bidens support for "white supremacist slave holding, racist, traitors"
     
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    Wallace AND NASCAR have plenty as I have explained to you especially as Wallace continues to play the victim. They both should apologize to the fans and to members of NASCAR crews and workers at the track for falsely accusing someone among them of engaging in a hate crime when there was none.
     
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    You can see, they were pardoned as traitors.
    Meaning they escaped penalties for the crimes of treason.
    So yes, there were traitors who were granted immunity. But still traitors.

    No need to idolize the traitors.
     
  5. dairyair

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    You didn't want Wallace and NASCAR. You wanted Wallace to apologize because the liar president made a lying tweet you agreed with.
     
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    Why would I ask that garbage?

    You have NOT been out much, because "Yankees" are some of the most racist pond scum pukes I have ever met. When the "Yankees" wouldn't help a black do a daily on a plane, I grabbed a rag and helped him. Why would I do that? I wasn't even the same specialty.

    One of the most racist blacks I ever met was from New York city, and it was so obvious because I put him working next to a Puerto Rican from New York City, what the hell, found out he lived in a neighborhood nearby, how, because the black was so racist I don't think he ever said a word to him, the Puerto Rican had to walk through their racist hood; last time I checked New York City is up NORTH of us, so how the hell did the black get that way (up NORTH)? What is the NORTH doing to them?

    Look at the freaking Map:
    https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/g...protests-wake-george-floyds-death/5310149002/
     
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    No I have said BOTH all along scroll way back. Is that the best response you got ignoring the facts of what happened?
     
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    I was working at the shipyard in Mississippi back in the early 70's where the foreman and our leadman were both black everyone got along, had a little fling with a black girl working there in one of the double bottoms of DD-963 :banana:. He decided to move back home to Chicago and said hey move there and we can play there. So after a few weeks got my stuff together and moved up. The day I got there, the Oaklawn south suburb, some of his friends came over and we jumped in the car so they could show me around. We get on the mainstreet there and they see a black guy walking down the street. Their first response was "what;s that black guy doing here???". There was more of that up there than down in the deep south and the blacks didn't want the whites or hispancs in their neighborhoods and there were the Italian and Irish and Polish and on and on and on................
     
  9. dairyair

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    You should ask that garbage because that garbage killed black people in their church, because he loved the traitor flag and killed black people for what it stands for.

    It is clear what the flag stands for, it was used to rally the south to start a war so they could continue to own black people. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    Around the time of Vanessa Williams and Miss America, I mentioned a girl in shop I thought was pretty, and guy says I don't know what a good looking black woman looks like; Okay, so the girl at work had a skinny butt... I'm supposed to have a butt bias before I can have an opinion of pretty. I was down there showing her how to rivet without smiley faces once, and I was turned on, so she has a skinny butt. End of the world, skinny butt girls need an apology from Sir Mix-A-Lot:

     
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    You mean used to rally DEMOCRATS?
     
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    1 it was not a noose it was tied like that to make it easier to pull. I do the same thing in my garage, and so do a lot of people.

    2 it was NOT the only garage that had a pull rope that was tied like that. At least one other one also had that, and it was untied following the investigation.

    3 the loop was tied well over a year in advance by another driver. So unless people are going to claim that the racetrack intentionally assigned him that garage as a threat, assuming he would thi
    nk the Hemsworth was a noose, then I'm not sure why people keep talking about it.



    The real issue is Trump's stupidity claiming that the driver himself tied the loop, so he could falsely claim racism.
     
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    NOPE................ACCUSATIONS as traitors, they were never declared traitors and were not and are not traitors so stop referring to them as traitors. And again why are you ignoring Biden's support for these "white supremacist, racist, slaveowning, traitors"? Why doesn't the left DEMAND he step down and be replaced?
    Ahhh.....that flag was not adopted until months AFTER the start of the Civil War when Lincoln first tried to blockcade Charleston and then invaded at Manassas.
     
  14. dairyair

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    The South. The Southern states went to war with the USofA.

    There's a movement today to take down statues that idolize the traitors. Those southern states today, don't want them taken down. They are mostly all republican.
     
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    Duh. They were pardoned.

    So they could NOT be PUNISHED for being TRAITORS to the USA.
     
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    Pardoned from accusations, they were never prosecuted or charged except for Davis and even that was dropped way back when.

    Significantly, the Supreme Court’s 1866 Ex-Parte Garland ruling concluded that a “full” pardon granted a legal status of innocence to the offender."

    So stop falsely saying they are traitors and honoring them is honoring traitors.

    And why do you continue to dodge the fact that Biden voted to restate the citizenship of Davis and earlier of Robert E. Lee, why haven't the Democrats dropped him from their ticket?
     
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    Wrong the Union went to war with the Confederacy. Had the Union not invaded the Confederacy there would have been no war all they wanted was to be left alone and become trading partners with the Union. Lincoln was having none of it he wanted them destroyed.
     
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    Anyone who is capable of reading a history book knows the South, traitors to the USA, fired the 1st shot.
    That is why they were traitors that needed to be pardoned.
    They committed a treasonous act and could be executed.
     
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    No, DEMOCRATS went to war with the USA, and some Southerners did not, and let's not forget: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_American_Civil_War

    Southern states have been taking down, changing flags, changing the names of Jefferson Davis (Drive) to MLK...for decades now.

    I don't want you to whitewash history to defend the DEMOCRATS, who were the main culprits. Most of the Native Americans fought for different reasons, not treason, and they were brave too, and at least that should be respected. Even if Columbus or Stonewall Jackson were not perfect, for the times they lived, they were innovative and brave respectively.

    Columbus, no, there is not a movement to take down statues that idolize the traitors, their is a movement to take down statues that respect any WHITE (See Grant...). Only Black Lives Matter, remember it, learn it, and disrespect BLM if you are not RACIST.
     
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    See Chaz/Chop...
     
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    Bull! The Democrats wanted to spread slavery beyond the compromise, Missouri Compromise, it was clear in all the writings of the period. To spread West like Polk wanted, see Buffalo soldiers (why?), Guam, Cuba, Railroad, all the things that slavery would harm if it followed West; If Slavery did not spread West there was inevitable defeat of it (simple math, see compromise 1850).

    Until you understand what "Guam" and "Cuba" and "railroad" had to do with Slavery, you can't get it; go find the cartoon in the New York times with those words on it where the black is being shoved down the throat of the man in top hat and tails.

    There was a desire for EMPIRE, to take the Spanish empire, take Cuba, Philippines, all of that before the Civil War. Why this stuff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_C._Perry
     
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    How can an American Army invade a state in America? The Confederacy was nothing more than racist, slave owning, traitors.
     
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    They were states in the Confederacy and not traitors as I have cited.

    Surely you're not going for Biden after he supported these "racist, slave owning, traitors" you proclaim them to be are you?
     
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    They wanted to be left alone, they did not want war that was Lincoln.
     
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    Just because you claim you are no longer a part of this country doesn't make it so. Right if NC said, "we are leaving the United States and are no longer a part of America they would be laughed out of town.

    I am definitely not voting for the man who TODAY is trying to uphold the Confederacy as heroes.
     

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