Trump campaign issued $122 million in refunds to donors in 2020

Ha ha... Really !

 

All depends... if Democrat do it, it is not.

 

In this case, it is all Trump's nefarious dealings once again.

 

No candidate has ever gotten a dime from me. I came close with Pres Biden because of how important it was to remove the COVID denier party but it soon became clear that outcome was all but guaranteed. I likely will donate for the first time when it comes to replacing FL Gov MoRon DeathSantis but this is all beside the point.

The person I replied to flew off their rocker with knee-jerk reactions to simple voting laws that are Constitutional and present in other states. Asking US citizens to show their ID when they vote is not "repressing Blacks" as that poster put it. What repressing Blacks actually looks like is treating them as if they're too stupid to have an ID in the first place, by making their communities more dangerous with defund police efforts, and by robbing them of jobs by bullying employers too stop doing business in their areas.

 

The outcome is far from being guaranteed.

Secondly, Byden and his administration have completely disavowed the idea of defunding the police. He’s of the correct mind that more has to be done in selecting and training them with more emphasis on being a first responder and caregiver.

Many communities suffer from being understaffed and low moral for several factors. The infrastructure bill along with stricter gun control laws are designed to help municipalities deal with both.

He has his sht together. Trump was an illiterate as was the entire GOP when it came to infrastructure. They were laughable. Always talked, never did **** even when they had full control. They are the do nothing Party.

 

You’ll have to tell me one activity or business service that requires the same ID for service as it does for registration. Off the top on anyone’s head, THERE IS NONE. The voter intake person has a spread sheet of all your registration history before them when you go to vote. They can ask any question they want. OuR precinct is near the town hall where we have done business for two decades. It’s the same in most places and with modern computers, there is no reason to slow down the process like there is no reason to ask for more then your DOB when you go to the doctors office AFTER you preregister. Businesses know what they are doing. Service is interrupted by IDs at time of service. That’s what voter IDs are designed to do, and Republicans fking know it.

VOTING BY MAIL IS EVEN EASIER TO CHECK. It’s a federal offense and we’ve been catching people, mostly republicans from doing it already.

 

. Fraud is not a new idea. Trump has a history of it. It’s too bad that it slipped your mind.
Just Google it by typing , “Fraud” and “Trump”....

 

Glad you brought that up. The amount the Clinton Campaign had to return was 500k while the Trump campaign donor returns were about 122 million. So you’re correct. That’s about the ratio of uninformed gullible supporters of the gop to the Dems.
Let’s see, 122,000,000 to 500,000 is about right..or,
244 to 1. Yup....I’ll buy that. You’re pointing out, that Trump supporters are much more likely to be duped and by a much greater amount. I wouldn’t be astonished either to find out if a liberal source wasn’t necessary to point this out to a conservative donor.

 

From your post: In the final weeks leading up to the 2020 presidential election, Donald Trump’s campaign was in dire need of a cash influx to combat the Biden campaign’s ad buys. The solution was to insert language into donor agreements that set up increasingly opaque recurring charges to donors’ accounts.

Am I right in reading that the website was changed from the original terms and conditions? That they inserted the language after people had already contributed? If so, this is irrefutable evidence that he set out to defraud folks for his own greed.

 

If it was, it still has not been altered. I guess people are still getting fked.

 

Or, maybe Dems are smarter and aren’t getting caught. Either way, either the GOP is more criminally inclined or the dems are but much smarter and avoid charges .

So which is it ? Dems are so smart, they even avoid indictments when the GOP have full control of the admin and the Congress.

Oh, that deep State thing will pop up again.

 

I knew it - the man if a financial genius! But why he giving his hard swindled money back, why he is not suing his gullible supporters?

 

Apparently, it was changed:
Initially, there was an easily overlooked pre-checked box on the donation page -- which, naturally, many supporters didn't see -- that turned a single donation into a monthly contribution. As Election Day drew closer, the pre-checked box created weekly contributions.

And it doesn't end there. Apparently the scam was so successful, that it is being repeated by the company who created it for other Republicans!
Now WinRed is exporting the tools it pioneered during the Trump re-election across the Republican Party, presaging a new normal for G.O.P. campaigns. Today, the websites of various Republican Party committees and top congressional Republicans, including Representative Kevin McCarthy, the House minority leader, and Senator Mitch McConnell, the Senate minority leader, include prechecked yellow boxes for multiple or recurring donations.

How Trump Steered Supporters Into Unwitting Donations - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

 

I would say I'm amazed but I'm not ... Trump can do no wrong in the followers mind ... the flock treads behind the shepherd ...

 

What further proof do the Dirty Donald fans need to see that their fearless leader is interested in one thing only, feathering his own nest regardless of the scam or theft.

 

Smart Dems is an oxymoron. Wanna example? In Colorado, An enlightened Dems just proposed the law to “require that cows, hogs and other livestock get to live at least 25% of their natural lives before heading to the slaughterhouse”.
The ballot measure also defines animals’ natural lifespans: 20 years for a cow, 15 for a pig, eight for a chicken, six for a rabbit. Each must get to live at least a quarter of its natural life before going to harvest, it says.”

So, the farmer must feed chickens for 2 years before it becomes cutlet and feed cow for 5 years before it becomes filet mignon? Have you tried 5 year old filet mignon?

Cattle are typically slaughtered for beef around age 2, but under the proposal, that would change to age 5. By then, the meat is no longer fit for tender steaks, the extra age making cuts tough and unappetizing, say ranchers. And what will it cost?

And I’m not even gonna talk about artificial insemination, which under the new sex with animals law defines it as exactly that. Our farmers and ranchers are now scratching their heads and consider becoming computer programmers.

The smartness of Democrats has no bounds. Trust me

 

I forgive Donald Trump for any irregularities and hope he does not abandon politics.

 

They don't see it as a scam. Anything Trump does they see as owning kids, and that's all they care about.

 

Wow, you’re into chickens pigs and cows. I suppose you guys are still upset Obama wore a tan suit.

 

Irregularities ? Fraud is an irregularity now ? The only thing Trump has done is make Bush the second most incompetent president ever.

 

The only thing surprising about this story is that Trump actually refunded them.

 

Trump can’t afford to let anything go to trial. He’d have to appear under oath. In his other fraud cases, he paid to avoid going to court. It’s what rich criminals do to stay out of jail.

 

No, a non criminal Trump official is an oxymoron. He’s up to 215 indictments now.

 

That is the brilliant part of the whole scheme. I am sure the intention was to repay the majority of the money back. Considered when this happened. It was late in the campaign when Biden was out raising and out spending Trump substantially. The Trump campaign needed money. They essentially changed the donation process so it defaulted one time contributions to recurring knowing that the majority of donor will eventually notice and ask for their money back. A small percentage may not care and accept the fact they donated more than they initially intended or may just never notice or not be in a state to claim the money back. That would be a bonus to the plan. For the people that demanded a refund, they have essentially given the campaign an interest free loan to be paid back after the election. Conveniently Trump was able to raise $250 million after the election to fight election fraud which probably could be used for things like refunding these donors. This is just Trump demonstrating his mastery of the "time value of money" principle.

 

I have to show identification to fill out and submit ATF Form 4473, I have to show that same identification after the authorized response is returned. There you go.