Trump campaign issued $122 million in refunds to donors in 2020

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  1. fmw

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    I've heard that too. I don't believe it. Sanders is certainly influencing things. I doubt AOC is much more than an irritant to the establishment.
     
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    Criminals aren't impressed by laws.
     
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    You have to give him some credit. He can twist anything to make it sound like he's not a fraud.

    Not surprisingly, that 1% is a lie. It was 10.7% according to this article.

    Over all, the Trump operation refunded 10.7 percent of the money it raised on WinRed in 2020; the Biden operation’s refund rate on ActBlue, the parallel Democratic online donation-processing platform, was 2.2 percent, federal records show.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/03/us/politics/trump-donations.html
     
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    Funny, you can’t tell me one way. The only way I discovered on line, was the local GOP attempt to scam the elderly in NC out of their votes . They got caught pretty easily. I’m still waiting for one way.just one. Btw, where is this book ?

    And then, there is the GOP judge. The only thing I can tell is, republican voter fraud people think everyone is as stupid as they are.
    https://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article247291039.html
     
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    She seems to upsetting a boat load of republicans. She’s worth it on that alone.
     
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    I suppose so if you value upsetting people.
     
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    I didn't expect you to look very hard.
     
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    You asked me to provide "one activity or business service that requires the same ID for service as it does for registration". I gave you a scenario where that effectively happens. In Florida if we buy from an FFL dealer (gun store) we walk in, select the product, submit ID along with form 4473 (the "registration" if you will), it goes off for review, days later if approved I go back, submit ID once more to pickup the firearm.
     
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    No you haven’t. One, you don’t register a gun with this form, ( just check the registration weapons form where registration is actually required) and two, to practice your service legally, you don’t have to provide and ID. Providing an ID to buy something is not registering it. You’re providing the ID as part of your back ground check and purchase. . It’s no different then buying a car and picking it up later. There is no registration in buying a car, unless you register for warranty work. Registration is a different procedure. If you’re in a state that requires registration, you’d get that.

    It sounds like you don’t know what registration means.
     
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    You're being too literal with the comparison. The underlying concept here is showing your ID twice. If you can do it once, you can do it again. Its not a big deal. "Give it a rest".
     
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    showing your ID twice ? You must have an unorganized gun seller. I give him mine once and he keeps it for a while while he calls for the BC and fills out other forms.
    Literal ? You can’t argue some thing is “like registration” if it isn’t. You want to see what gun registration looks like, Check out Washington DC. You have to register your gun and yourself.
     
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    As long as she as a strong force as a woman and keeps irritating the right, she’s a star !!!
     
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    So whats the problem then?
     
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    None with me as long as you only need IDs to register.....just like everywhere else there is registration.
     
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    Haha, I gotta tell you this has to be the second dumbest election related thing to fight over. Showing your ID twice, oh my golly gosh, the horror... the absolute horror that I might have to pull this thing I carry with me every day out of my wallet two times as opposed to one. I mean just sit back for a moment and realize our country's cancel culture obsessed outrage mob just robbed a city of about $100 million in revenue from one sporting event due to a fight over having to show a small plastic rectangle two times instead of one. Are we dumb? I think we're dumb, I think we're super extra dumb. Maybe we do need competency tests in order to quality to vote because I sure as hell don't want people who decided THIS was something to fight over having a say in how we run the country. /eyeroll

    The stupidity of this debate is eclipsed only by the #1 dumbest election related thing to fight over: signature mismatches. Why in the hell in this age of technology are we still using chicken scratch as a form of authentication? Its just laughable, we should be laughed at, I'm laughing at us.
     
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    Dumb ? Blame Trump. He still has the GOP carrying his water for claimed voter fraud that never existed. It’s about apartheid white minority rule. Really, you’re the only one laughing. Minorities who are being suppressed aren’t, if you cared to ask.
     
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    Only thing being suppressed here is intelligence. Because there is absolutely nothing wrong with producing your ID for a second time. In fact throughout this entire exchange you haven't even attempted to convince me that there is by demonstrating how. And I think we both know its because you can't make the case.

    These minorities that the left thinks are so dumb, and so weak, and so inept, that they cant pull a piece of plastic from their pocket a second time just might be as stupid and weak and inept as the Democrat implication herein claims. But here's the thing: Its not because of their race, its because they're listening to progressives. Just look at how far the insanity goes. Showing your ID twice is "apartheid White minority rule"? Holy crap that is some hyper-irrationality right there, friend.

    I can give this no more of my time so my final statement is this: If someone cant be bothered to show their ID twice to vote then they don't need to be voting. The bar can only go so low.
     
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    Congratulations. You’ve just given a completely synopsis of why voter suppression has to be eliminated and not supported.. The total lack of awareness is staggering in your statements. BTW, minorities are people. Using “that” instead of “who” is an illustration of dehumanization. Maybe some time spent as a poll worker would help. Every year both GOP and Dem poll workers who support our present system continue to after their stints. Go ahead. Volunteer as a poll worker for one election.
     
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    Ah yes... the adults are in da house! :D

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    Evidently so, and yet you venture an opinion :D
     
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    Figured. You can’t tell anyone how you can successfully commit voter fraud.
     
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    I was joking.....AOC is influential only in committee. But, the Biden admin is much more liberal then he talked about in the election. But being more liberal, just makes him more correct.
     
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    A few are:

    You can vote more than once in some states.
    You can harvest ballots and throw out the ones you don't like
    You can steal wholesale mailed ballots, fill them out and submit them.
    If you are a secretary of state you can allow illegal ballots to be counted (Pennsylvania)
    You can lie about your identity at the polls in some states
    If you are an election worker you can fail to follow up in a precinct that has more ballots than population (Detroit and some Arizona counties .)
    If you are a secretary of state you can mass mail ballots that weren't requested (all over the country). Ballots should be protected from fraud.
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    There are a few you can chew on. These things are not only possible but they and others actually happened in the last election. And it is still happening. If you are president you can call voter ID a Jim Crow law even though it makes cheating in elections harder. I don't vote any longer out of frustration but those who think voting helps anything should want more security. I live in a state that makes voter fraud very difficult and I am amazed at the laxness in other states.
     
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    Nope. And you need to name them.
    I dont think you know what ballot harvesting means.
    Nope, they, provisional are adjudged legal then counted. And thier party affiliation derterminesb nothing. They are legal when counted.
    Tell me exactly how you can get away with it. That’s absolutely insane. You’d have to memorize all the information on the registration card of some one you didn’t know because they can ask a question about any of it.

    tell me you have actually voted in your life as no one is this callous to allow you to make up a name. They check the name off a registration sheet then ask you a question....you don’t even know what it might be. Your a big fibber.
     
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