Trump congratulates Putin????

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If they did, why hasn't Mueller got a handle on it? Why did Obama scoff at Trump who tried to tell Obama the election was rigged?
     
  2. Lucifer

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    You've already convinced me you have NOTHING to contribute. So stop working so hard at being a bore.
     
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    Translation: You can't dispute it so you'll attack me instead.

    Do you think I'm unaware of liberals and their transparent attempt of avoiding talking when they know they'll just loose?

    Why don't you tell us what you think of Obama's multiple Putin congratulations.

    Would you like some links?
     
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  4. Lucifer

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    You have NEVER disputed one ounce of anything. You divert. That is all you do. That is what you have been trained to do.
     
  5. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You think there was before him? Seems Obama called ISIS Jr. Varsity pretending to be soldiers.
     
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    I'm not the one not answering questions.

    That's all you.

    You can't dodge me. Eventually you'll just try to fade away to avoid talking about it.

    Tick tock.

    Let's talk about Presidents congratulating Putin. Come on.
     
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    Obama congratulates Putin for election “win” – Foreign Policy
    foreignpolicy.com/2012/03/09/obama-congratulates-putin-for-election-win/

    Mar 9, 2012 - The Russian people and international observers may not see last Sunday's presidential election in Russia as legitimate, but President Barack Obama has now officially endorsed the return of Russian past and future President Vladimir Putin. "President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime ...
     
  8. Lucifer

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    It's so blatant you're all a bunch of Foxbots.
     
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    Yeah.

    Didn't he say something about eliminating ISIS holdings as a "generational war"?

    What did it take Mattis? A year?

    Marines can do amazing things when we're allowed to shoot back.
     
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    Staying safe in "I hate Trump generalization land" I see.

    Get specific and lets see how that turns out.
     
  11. Canell

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    I thought this was debunked long time ago. Why repeat the same nonsense over and over and over again?
     
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    Critical theory and emotion is all they have.

    This is why they want to crush free speech, it's because they have no intelligent argument to back up their mouth frothing.
     
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    CIA director Brennan admits ISIS was “decimated” under Bush, but ...
    www.aei.org/.../brennan-admits-isis-was-decimated-under-bush-but-has-grown-under-...

    Nov 17, 2015 - by the CIA's own estimate, ISIS has grown on President Obama's watch from just 700 fighters to between 20000 and 31500 fighters. ... admission: The Islamic State was “decimated” under George W. Bush and had just “700-or-so adherents left” following the surge in Iraq. Said Brennan: [ISIS] was, you know
     
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    US Pilots Confirm: Obama Admin Blocks 75% of ISIS Strikes
    freebeacon.com/.../us-pilots-confirm-obama-admin-blocks-75-percent-of-isis-strikes/

    Nov 20, 2015 - "You went 12 full months while ISIS was on the march without the U.S. using that air power and now as the pilots come back to talk to us they say three-quarters of our ordnance we can't drop, we can't get clearance even when we have a clear target in front of us," Royce said. "I don't understand this strategy
     
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    Here's a great graphical representation:

    That's what happens when your ROE says you have to have your guys actually get shot before you can return fire.

     
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  16. Lucifer

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    You keep wanting to talk about Obama. NEWSFLASH!!!! OBAMA IS NO LONGER THE POTUS!!!!

    You refuse to see Trump's incompetence.

    What is there to get specific about when you live in a world where the CURRENT POTUS can do NO wrong?

    There is no room to get specific with you guys because over and over again, all you guys do is deflect to Obama or Hillary. You won't judge Trump by the same standard you judged Obama. He's your demigod. You refuse to see how much feces falls out of Trump's mouth on a daily basis.

    I'm not even judging Trump against other presidents, I'm judging him against just being a plain old human, and he keeps demonstrating he barely qualifies as one.

    So, other than your partisan hackery and your delusional fantasies of what Liberals are, there really is nothing to discuss with you in any specific sense.
     
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    That's not going to work with me.

    Trump congratulated Putin. Obama congratulated Putin multiple times.

    You say Trump did something wrong? Why did no one say what Obama did was wrong?

    Answer: Anything Trump does is wrong because he hurt liberal feelings.

    Your argument is a pathetic piece of swiss cheese.

    Trump is doing better in every metric than Obama, outside of selling guns to drug cartels.

    Tell us something Obama did better than Trump, besides lie and spy on journalists and everyone else.
     
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    I don't give a damn what Trump says. I care what he does and he's done a hell of a lot more than Obama has. ISIS holds less than 5% of what they held when Trump came in office. He has this economy steaming hot and many of the companies that have pledge to build plants here hasn't even started yet. He has illegal immigration down to around 50% of what it was. He has evicted and arrested hundreds of gang members. etc, etc.
     
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    ...and pushing on every promise he made on the campaign trail.

    The only things he hasn't gotten done in one year are the failures of Marxists in Congress, not Trump.
     
  20. Marine1

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    Well lets look at Obama and Trump.

    Is your insurance $2,500.00 cheaper? Can you keep your same doctor and plan? Where are those one million shovel ready jobs he said he had if elected? Did he have the most transparent administration of any other? Did he renegotiate NAFTA as he said he would? Did he stop no bid contracts as he said he would? Did he post all bills on the Internet before signing them as he said he would? Did he balance the budget in his first term as he said he would? Did he deport more illegals than any other administration as he said he did? Steel industry myth Obama bought into busted by PolitiFact - NWI Times,etc. Etc Did the steel companies put out as much steel under his administration as they ever did? Did he clear lobbyist out of his administration as he said he would? Did he close Gitmo as he said he would? Did he end the Iraqi war as he said he did? Was ISIS Jr. Varsity as he said they were?
     
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    He brought back over a million jobs in less than a year. He has companies bringing back billions in banks parked off shore and they are investing billions in our economy. He has ISIS holding less than 5% of the land they held when he came into office. He has gotten NATO to start putting in their fair share, taking the burden off of us. He is given our veterans better care. They are no longer dying waiting to see a doctor. He is in negotiations with NAFTA right now trying to make trade fairer. He has some of our defense contractors cutting their prices on the weapons we buy from them. He got Boeing to cut over a billion on the new Air Force One. He is replacing retiring Federal judges with new, younger ones. Judges who will rule on the Constitution, not the Party they favor. His policies have cut illegal entry to America by at least 50%. He has cut down on unvetted Muslim refugees. He has deported thousands of gang members. He has foreign companies bringing their plants here because of the tax and regulation cuts. His tax cuts have given people more money in their pocket. Many of those companies are sharing that cut with employees, in bonuses, raises, better benefits. Best of all it's bringing in much better jobs. Jobs you can make a living off of and support a family. Not like Obama's part time and service jobs
     
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    When will you get over your TDS?


    http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/03/09/obama-congratulates-putin-for-election-win/


    http://www.weeklystandard.com/obama-calls-to-congratulate-putin/article/633368
     
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    Simple minds miss it of course (as Ronstar keeps reminding us?), but Trump is smarter than is generally thought. In this case he had to join the European anti-Putin (Novichok) hysteria, but he also recognises that Putin is more than the sum of his parts. This is why western leaders loathe him (Putin) so much - because his statesmanship, and his initiative in Syria when he realised that the west had backed the wrong ****ing horse again [​IMG] :wall: , highlighted that very statesmanship, and exposed them as being the hopeless political nonentities that they undoubtedly are. It all amounts to the politics of the school playground, and it's pitiful to watch adults conducting themselves - on the world stage, if you please - like children. Truly pathetic!
     
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