Trump Declines Certification That Iran is in Compliance; Brands Iranian Republican Guards Terrorists

I agree, of course.

Are you aware of the thread:
"We Jews do run the banks and media. It's not anti-Semitic to point out stats !" - Milo Y
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ut-stats-milo-y.516612/page-8#post-1068151395

Thank goodness for Independent media

 

What has "...not been reported to death" is the fact that Israeli lobbies were pushing the US to War with Iraq,(1) then just as they are pushing the US to war with Iran, now(2).

While N. Korea is a far more volatile & significant threat that DOES have nuclear weapons, the "Israel First", Iran-haters on this board are fixated on Iran that DOES NOT have nuclear weapons


(1) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003



(2) "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

EXCERPT "But Netanyahu’s fear-mongering has made a difference. The Israel lobby here has made confronting Iran the centerpiece of its activities on Capitol Hill, successfully drafting and easily convincing both Democrats and Republicans to enact sanctions that punish the Iranian people along with resolutions making clear that the U.S. will go to war if Iran doesn’t give up its nuclear program."CONTINUED

 

No, I wasn't aware of that thread. So, at least we shouldn't get labeled for pointing out the obvious facts.
But the Hasbara agents as well as some "America can't do wrong" fanatics tell us our links are conspiracy sites or we are America haters and Anti-Semites or Nazi lovers etc. We will never all sit on the same green twig! Which is fine, after all, we are debating issues. What is not fine are the personal attacks and degrading remarks, as well as baiting.
I, too, say, Thank Goodness for the Internet!!

 

To mind comes...
WHY has Israel never been sanctioned for killing all those Palestinian children?



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...tinian-children-killed-by-Israeli-forces.html

 

I assume you are going for "reveal" and it's in the first line of the post!

 

There was different intelligence saying different things and bush went with the one he considered more legitimate. Not only that but the "what if it's right" factor surely was part of the decision making progress. Much like the AGW crowd says what if the hypothesis is right? We better react to that and not hard evidence. There's a lesson here.

 

Yeah. Horse ****.

House Passes Sanctions on Iran’s Ballistic Missile Program.

 

Meanwhile, other countries and their industries profit while American businesses sit on the sidelines:

"Foreign Investors Flock to Iran as U.S. Firms Watch on the Sidelines"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/foreig...s-u-s-firms-watch-on-the-sidelines-1490607002

EXCERPT "After years shunning Iran, Western businesses are bursting through the country’s doors—but U.S. companies are noticeably absent."CONTINUED

 

So what?

 

Iran is rich in not only gas but minerals & other natural resources. Somebody's going to profit from that but it's not going to be US industries. It would be far better for the US economy & US strategic interests to have normalized relations with Iran as Iran has reached out to the US repeatedly:

"Iran's President Rouhani Won't Stop Reaching Out to the American People"
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...ont-stop-reaching-out-american-people/310856/

 

The topic I was responding to was on Iraq .... not Iran.

 

So, hypocritical, "righteous" outrage is your sole line of argumentation?

It won't sell. Have a nice one too.

 

Not sure where you get "hypocritical", but the market for your product has proven to be quite limited.

Good luck!

 

Terrible link. The author's a known hysterical zionist, and offers little in the way of evidence.

 

You don't even have a clue? Not even a slight idea? Of course you don't.

Then why would people want to discuss with you in the first place? Troll-wrestling afficionados and drama amateurs, I suppose.

 

To lead them in chants of "DEATH TO AMERICA!"?

 

It's not that simple as you've been led to believe


"In Iran, ‘death to America’ doesn’t mean what you think"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...eans/31910553/

https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-08-17/iran-death-america-doesn-t-mean-what-you-think-it-means

EXCERPT ""Death to America" expresses the anger many Iranians feel about U.S. policy toward Iran, said Foad Izadi, an assistant professor of world studies at the University of Tehran. Iranians remember that the U.S. overthrew the legitimate government of Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 and supported the dictatorial Shah who followed.

The slogan "means death to American foreign policy," said Izadi. Iranians "have problems with the American government, not the American people." In fact, he said, Iranians are friendly to Americans. "When you walk around town, and people see you're an American, everyone wants to take care of you."

Those two sharply different understandings of the chant parallel a wider disagreement between Iran and the U.S. over foreign policy in the Middle East. The U.S. sees Iran as an aggressive power, supporting terrorism in the region. Iran calls the U.S. a superpower that threatens military attacks on Iran and its allies."CONTINUED

 

How do the Yemenis and Lebanese view Iranian foreign policy?

If we say they will not be allowed to obtain nuclear weapons, and we mean it and back our word with our might, they can shout whatever slogans they want, they will still lose their regime and Iranians will be liberated.

 

Are you an anti-Semite?

 

Are you a pedophile?

 

So what?

 

You deflected.

Are you an anti-Semite?

 

You deflected.

Are you a pedophile?

 

I don't know how, exactly, the Yemenis & Lebanese view Iran's foreign policy.
However, I do know that the S. Lebanese are strongly supportive of Hezbollah due to its Social Services, construction
Did you happen to listen to Iranian President Rouhani's UN speech? It was refreshingly sane & in stark contrast to Netanyahu's & Trump's bellicose tantrums. The Iranians are liberating themselves however the more belligerent the US becomes due to Israeli influence, the more we will thwart their moderation
My point is that Iran is changing & becoming far more politically Westernized on its own.(1) It's up to the US to meet them halfway however our Zionist / Israeli lobbies won't let us.
Even if Iran developed nuclear weapons, they would only have them as deterrent options, not aggressive ones.
The primary pro War elements are the Right Wing Israelis like Netanyahu(2)

War or any sort of confrontation with Iran would only make the mullahs more powerful & reverse their current pro West trend.
Today's Iran is not the Iran of 1979. They've come a long way & I resent the counterproductive meddling of our pro War Israeli lobbies.(3)
Thanks




(1)"Those Friendly Iranians"
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/05/opinion/those-friendly-iranians.html?mcubz=3

EXCERPT "Finally, I've found a pro-American country.

Everywhere I've gone in Iran, with one exception, people have been exceptionally friendly and fulsome in their praise for the United States, and often for President Bush as well.

Then I stopped to chat with one of the Revolutionary Guards now based in the complex. He was a young man who quickly confessed that his favorite movie is ''Titanic.'' ''If I could manage it, I'd go to America tomorrow,'' he said wistfully.

He paused and added, ''To hell with the mullahs.''CONTINUED


(2) "Netanyahu & the Lobby Cowboy Up For War With Iran"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mj-rosenberg/netanyahu-the-lobby-cowbo_b_3611038.html

EXCERPT "But Netanyahu’s fear-mongering has made a difference. The Israel lobby here has made confronting Iran the centerpiece of its activities on Capitol Hill, successfully drafting and easily convincing both Democrats and Republicans to enact sanctions that punish the Iranian people along with resolutions making clear that the U.S. will go to war if Iran doesn’t give up its nuclear program."CONTINUED



(3)"Neocon Pundit: The Israel Lobby Wants War With Iran"

http://www.thedailybeast.com/neocon-pundit-the-israel-lobby-wants-war-with-iran

 

I believe that it would be better for the US economy