Trump didn't create this mess. He just made it worse

Because it is about cities being responsible for their own debts rather than palming it off on the federal government.

 

Okay - so what do you attribute the cuts to police funding to? Do you have sources? Not suggesting that you can't - just all the sources I'm reading are talking about slashing budgets has to do with city's underfunded budgets - not a response to protests. Defunding is a different matter altogether.

 

"They gonna put y’all back in chains” - JOE BIDEN

I rest my case. Democrats are race hustlers and create division for political gain.

 

You read different new than I do.
ttps://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/06/04/la-mayor-slashes-lapd-budget-as-calls-to-defund-police-slowly-pick-up-steam/#a3596411ba36

 

From your own article:
State and local budgets have been squeezed by the coronavirus pandemic, as tax revenue has plummeted and spending has increased. The shortfall could make decreasing police budgets more tenable, some activists argue.

Despite using the “defund police phrase,” most activists don’t want to reduce appropriations to police departments to zero dollars, which is impractical. Instead, supporters of the movement hope to reduce the responsibilities we ask of police and redirect funds to other social programs. "For hundreds of years, black communities have lived under state terror — be it police or vigilante violence," Patrisse Cullors, co-founder of the Black Lives Matter movement, told the Hollywood Reporter. "An abolitionist believes in a world where police and prisons are no longer weaponized as a tool for public safety."

 

Notice the wording. "The shortfall could make decreasing police budgets more tenable, some activists argue."
Meaning it helps them do what they were already planning.

And then from the article "As protests continue across the country, some activists are calling to “defund police” and redirect those funds to other areas such as education and health care, arguing police reform is not enough."

 

So your beef with him is he's doing his job?

 

Dirty Donald has an uncanny habit of making things worse.

 

Again, you show your total ignorance of law enforcement and the role of the police.
Police are not there to "punish".

 

Literally everything trump touches turns to ****.
Check it out.

 

That was a error. I did not notice it until you pointed it out just now. I mean to say "They are not being killed as punishment. They are being killed as a consequence of resisting arrest."

If you will read the two sentences, you will see that the way I said it initially makes little sense.

 

Look up the expression "boils down to"

 

I am not interested in puzzles. Show me where I said it.

 

So your case was that Joe Biden was right?

Ok...

 

Holy moley! You're saying that a state functionary made things worse?? Shocking!

 

He did torture kids. If you're trying to deny facts by playing with words, just let me know. I'll understand. But your strawman would be as illogical (not intended to compare the two, just the logic) as saying that Hitler didn't kill Jews.

I don't know what you want to discuss. There are threads about a lot of things. But that Trump tortured children (to preempt any strawman: i.e. enacted a policy intended to torture children in order to dissuade their parents from bringing them into this country) was all over the news at the time.

BTW, I moved this to the thread because it's part of the topic.

Trump didn't create the humanitarian crisis at the boarder. He just made it worse. By torturing children. Yes! He enacted a policy to torture children which included NO plan to ever return them to their parents. And, as they admitted, the purpose was to dissuade parents to come to this country. That is torture. And what do I mean by "torture"?

18 U.S. Code § 2340

"''torture' means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;
severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—
(A)
the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;
(B)
...
(C)
...
; or
(D)
the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, ...
Should be clear from the above that torture, according to our legal code, is not just physical harm. Now... as far as the policy, this is how our AG at the time described it.

"If you cross the border unlawfully ... then we will prosecute you. If you smuggle an illegal alien across the border, then we'll prosecute you. ... If you're smuggling a child, then we're going to prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you, probably, as required by law."
The child is (as are the parents), as the above code states "under the physical control" of authorities. Separating them from their parents will cause those children suffering and mental pain and suffering. Some of these children were separated for weeks, months... even years (hundreds had not been reunited even to the day Trump left the Presidency) from their parents. This is "prolonged mental harm" to those children. Some of the parents were deported and no effort was made to reunite them.

Here is how Trump described the policy:

"When you prosecute the parents for coming in illegally, which should happen, you have to take the children away. Now, we don't have to prosecute them, but then we're not prosecuting them for coming in illegally. That's not good."
Keep in mind that applying for asylum is not illegal. It's in our code. But they must be inside our country to apply for asylum. You can't do it if you are not physically inside the U.S. Even if you entered illegally. So this threat that a child will be subject to severe suffering falls under 18 U.S. Code § 2340 D.

For reference:

8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum
...
"Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title."
...

 

So now we have a border where kids are practically stacked on top of each other and then they are bused off to other crowded facilities. Numerous adults and children are encouraged to make the trip and large numbers end up starving or getting raped or molested. Not to mention the Covid-19. Explain how you think this is an improvement.