Trump encourages adoption

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Are you for the practice of abortion as it exist in this country today? What is it you personally have against abortion? And you have been quite clear in your opposition to adoption as an alternative so the baby can live, just read your previous post.
     
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    Again you make an ASSumption….or a deliberate "misrepresentation"

    I NEVER posted that I have anything against abortion.


    And YOU can't, AS USUAL, prove I did.






    AGAIN, I NEVER said I was opposed to adoption...….

    Uh, why do you have to "misrepresent" what I post?

    Is it because you have NO good argument? That's what it looks like....
     
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    I asked you two direct questions

    Are you for the practice of abortion as it exist in this country today? What is it you personally have against abortion?

    So you are FOR abortion. Make up your mind.
     
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    Again you make an ASSumption….or a deliberate "misrepresentation"

    I NEVER posted that I have anything against abortion.


    And YOU can't, AS USUAL, prove I did.



    AGAIN, I NEVER said I was opposed to adoption...….

    Uh, why do you have to "misrepresent" what I post?

    Is it because you have NO good argument? That's what it looks like....





    I am sorry my position is too deep for some to understand.

    One does NOT have to be for or against abortion to advocate for women to DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES if they want an abortion or not. Their right to CHOICE.

    The ISSUE is NOT whether I'm for or against abortion, the ISSUE is that I am for women having the same right to their own body that YOU HAVE.

    I cannot make it much simpler.

    It seems as if you don't really want to "get it" ….
     
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    If you are so in favor of that idea, then step up to the plate so that they are not shipped to orphan housing. You all want it a certain way as long as it isn’t you
     
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  6. Bluesguy

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    No that seems to be your idea

    And we have waiting list for new born adoptions.

    I have two adopted kids and far beyond the age of creating or adopting any new ones so you can withdraw the "isn't about you". And I guess I could say you want is a certain way as long as it isn't about you............being killed in the womb that is.
     
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    Do you know what a question mark means. It means it not a statement of a fact it's an inquiry. If your position is so simple to understand then you should able to simply state it

    Are you for the practice of abortion as it exist in this country today? What is it you personally have against abortion if you aren't for it or are you for abortion?

    Then you are for abortion, why do you deny your own stated position?


    I don't know that you understand it?

    I'm asking about what YOU think about abortion.

    Why can't you simply whether you are or you aren't? Why is it you on the side for abortion have to always dance around the abortion itself and play little word games rather than being able to clearly state what YOU believe about abortion and what actually happens in an abortion? And then at the same time attack people who support the adoption of the babies that aren't killed in the womb before they can be born and adopted.
     
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    I have stated my position several times ...all despite your repetitious "misrepresentation" of what I posted.



    That is in reply to my :""AGAIN, I NEVER said I was opposed to adoption...….""

    HOW does THAT show I am "for abortion" ?
    It doesn't.

    HOW TF does being opposed to ADOPTION ( which I am NOT) relate to my stance on abortion? IT doesn't.

    Do YOU know the difference between abortion and adoption ???!!!







    Why?



    Word games? That would be YOU "misrepresenting" what I posted....that's a game and it's all yours …




    I didn't attack "people" I attacked Trump....and rightly so...he is NOT touting adoption out of the kindness of his heart....he is touting it as an alternative to abortion to please his rabid base of Anti-Choicers.


    I am not flattered that you seem to have an obsessive need to know how I, a complete stranger to you, feels about abortion....it has NOTHING to do with the issue...
     
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    Oh, here we go again!
    Well I’ve asked you several times in the past to prove this accusation. And you’ve failed every time. But I’ll give you another chance...
    Prove to me and everyone else on this forum that pro lifers don’t care about the children and only want to control women.
    Considering that you’ve made this statement dozens of not hundreds of times it should be very easy for you to prove it.
    I’ll be waiting.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    So you aren't for abortion, why not? What is your reason?

    Message #22
    Message #33

    You can't even get on board with promoting more adoptions you are so for abortion.
     
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    I don't know

    Think you might get quite a lot of support for interventions such as paid maternity leave, "baby bonus" extra child support payments.......

    Tell me, why are the so called pro lifers not advocating for these measures?
     
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    I am happy to say I have never seen any supportative measures beyond " give the Baby away" from any so called "prolifers"

    I might be wrong

    Can you point me in the direction of any programs offering long term support of the mother and child?
     
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    If the baby is going to be put up for adoption why are they needed?
     
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    How many adoptees do you have and how many abortions are there per year?

    BTW Just won my point about pro lifers not caring once the child is born
     
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    Oh
     
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    It sure isn’t about you. Many who support adoption support it for others, but not them.
     
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    See, there's the problem.

    I post """FoxHastings said:
    HOW does THAT show I am "for abortion" ?"""


    ....and

    A. YOU canNOT answer the question. You did NOT answer the question. You couldn't answer the question. FAIL.

    B. you ASSume it means something it doesn't..

    C. How does the question ""HOW does THAT show I am "for abortion ?"""
    indicate in any way that I'm not for abortion? IT DOESN'T.

    Funny, I think you're trying for some big "gotcha" moment that won't happen because there simply is no reason nor logic to accomplish that :)







    Here's the rest of my post that you were afraid to include " I have stated my position several times ...all despite your repetitious "misrepresentation" of what I posted.

    That is in reply to my :""AGAIN, I NEVER said I was opposed to adoption...….""


    Word games? That would be YOU "misrepresenting" what I posted....that's a game and it's all yours …
    I didn't attack "people" I attacked Trump....and rightly so...he is NOT touting adoption out of the kindness of his heart....he is touting it as an alternative to abortion to please his rabid base of Anti-Choicers.


    I am not flattered that you seem to have an obsessive need to know how I, a complete stranger to you, feels about abortion....it has NOTHING to do with the issue...


    HOW does THAT show I am "for abortion" ?
    It doesn't.

    HOW TF does being opposed to ADOPTION ( which I am NOT) relate to my stance on abortion? IT doesn't.

    Do YOU know the difference between abortion and adoption ???!!!"""




    All those unanswered questions....tsk , tsk...you would think with your attitude you'd have all the answers :roflol::roflol::roll:


    Look at this simple question you couldn't handle :

    You ""I'm asking about what YOU think about abortion.""


    Fox : "Why?"



    Couldn't even answer that simple question....
     
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    Don't believe everything you read on the internet.....most anti-Choicers don't bring up their "adopted kids" til way late in the conversation ;)
     
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    And here's another of your little "gotcha moments"" that flopped :)

    In post 22 and 33 I did NOT say I was against adoption.....AND YOU CAN'T PROVE I DID


    If you read them slowly without rabidly searching for the "gotcha" and seeing ONLY what you want to see..you possibly could understand...


    English, try it!
     
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    No, I haven't failed, you just didn't agree....that doesn't mean I failed..





    Do please explain how banning abortion is NOT an attempt to control women....
     
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    I am aware. I know people who foster several children temporarily for a short period.
     
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    He adopted two kids as his wives..
     
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    In a thread about adoption you came in with the two post I cited and then of course you no holds bar defense of abortion, killing babies instead of placing them up for adoption.
     
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    And here's another of your little "gotcha moments"" that flopped :)

    In post 22 and 33 I did NOT say I was against adoption.....AND YOU DID NOT PROVE I DID


    If you read them slowly without rabidly searching for the "gotcha" and seeing ONLY what you want to see..you possibly could understand...

    You never proved I advocated "killing babies" …..


    If you insist I approve of killing babies again I will report you, that's flamebait...
     
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