Trump Ends Subsidies

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    you are not reading for comprehension. I said business and govt are separate under capitalism and combined under lib socialism or crony capitalism as in Obamacommiecare wherein govt makes payments to insurance companies. Now to you get it???
     
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    Obamacommiecare is not socialist?
     
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    isn't learning fun?
    why not add the other programs like community health clinics, Indian health service, Tri care, govt employee ins, Schip
    Government funds nearly two-thirds of U.S. health care costs ...
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    Jan 21, 2016 - At $5,960 per capita, government spending on health care costs in the U.S. was the
     
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    Free cars for all would be superior, at for those getting free cars. Do you understand?
     
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    1) there is absolutely no evidence that they get better care
    2) it is cheaper elsewhere because they are far poorer than we are. France for example has about 67% of our per capita income, about like our poorer states, and it pays about the same for health care as our poorer states.
    3) it is true too that they are better at socialism than we are so do get less waste than we get too.

    But, capitalism would reduce our prices about 80% placing us well below costs in Europe. Make sense now I hope?
     
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    liberals now love crony capitalist subsides to health insurance companies and banks!!!
     
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    No
     
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    And he vast majority of people are not on those programs. The majority of people have healthcare through their employer, or spouses employer.
     
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    No i don’t understand. Cars have absolutely nothing to do with the fact that single payer orovid s better care at a fraction the cost of our system.
     
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    Every first world country with single payer ranks higher than he US.
    Income levels are entirely irrelevant to the cost of healthcare.
    This doesn’t make any sense.
    We have capitalism now, and our costs are higher than any other first world nation. Capitalism is great, for certain things. Not for healthcare. Because healthcare isn’t a commodity like a tv, or kitchen appliance, or a cell phone provider.
     
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    as I said there is no evidence of that which explains why you prevented none
     
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    so you think the people of Niger for example can spend $10,000 per person when income there is $900 per person??
     
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    The income levels of a person have nothing to do with THE COST of healthcare.
     
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    think about it. France has a simple national socialist heath care system while we have about 5 different socialist systems each of which is a bankrupt mess in its own way. The French system probably has less waste if only because they have less money to waste, are naturally better at socialism, and have been fine tuning one system for decades.
     
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    so you think the people of Niger for example can pay for medical care that costs $10,000 per person when income there is $900 per person??
     
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    hate to rock your world but Medicare is not a capitalist company.
     
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    your article says France is not superior to USA despite ranking France 1st and USA 37th. Did you read you'r own article??

    So sorry but the WHO ranking are pretty much meaningless

    1) they are based in large part on financial fairness; this means that when compiled by a socialist organization( UN) a country with market incentives(USA) will be marketed down heavily, automatically!

    2) Also, they don't take into account that Americans are fat; so die sooner because of what they eat not because of the health care they get

    3) also, infant mortality is higher here because of our particular liberal welfare drug culture, not because of our health care system

    4) the WHO ranking don't take into account that drug companies give away drugs at reduced welfare prices to the top 37 countries because they are too poor to pay their fair share! And, they don't take into account that the USA had 80% of recent medical patents and does almost all medical research!. This means that without the USA the other countries would have no health care system at all, to speak of!!

    5) lastly , the WHO ranking don't acknowledge that the inefficiency in our system is in large part due to several conflicting, inefficient, overlapping, socialist, liberal bureaucracies: Medicare, Medicaid, VA, Schip!


    6) the who ranking don't take into account that we do 55% more knee implants or that breast and prostate cancer survival here is about 60% higher than in socialist Europe.

    7) they don't take into account that Pittsburg has more cat scanners than all of Canada.
     
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    No, none of this is true.
     
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    The income levels of a person have nothing to do with THE COST of healthcare.
     
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    And a small percentage of people are on it. Most are under the capitalistic system. Medicare is cheaper and more efficient.
     
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    any reason to think that?????????????????
     
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    Sorry, you can hand waive away the facts, but that doesn’t change them. The US healthcare is worse than every other first world nation.
     
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    Reality
     
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    hate to rock your tiny liberal world but Medicare Medicaid VA, Schip, tri care, Indian Care, govt employee care, are not the names of capitalist companies. 1+1=2
     

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