"Trump Goes to War Against the Democracies"

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  1. TheGreatSatan

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    I would think the IRS sees Trump's tax return and knowing what we know about the IRS if there was anything in there that could hurt Trump they would leak it.
     
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    If we could see and verify that the claims against were false, I would accept that and move on. But the 'innocent party' doesn't wish to do anything to prove his innocence.

    And no, I don't think there was an active collusion between Trump and Putin. I think that Trump owes some shady Russians a lot of money, but for Putin himself, the chaos in the Western Nation is good enough for him. His goal is to bring down Western Democracy, and Trump is fueling that push. Why would he need to expose himself by making that a clear deal?
     
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    Uh the Norkos are about to allow McDonalds into their nation. Cultural suicide is on the way dude, you won't recognize NORK in 50 years if that goes down. Which would, for the record, be a good thing because their culture is ****ed.
     
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    Trumpists have taught us that leakers are traitors.

    And what do you know about Trump's tax return ?
     
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    Damn...You better hope the Academy doesn't hear about this post...:lol:
     
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    Guilty until proven innocent? Sounds like something they would do in Russia.

    I'm sure you were here paying attention to the election like the rest of us and if Russia had an active role somebody would have noticed.

    I give you props for bucking the propaganda.

    For what?

    We were trending away from democracy and now we're trending back towards it. We have two political parties who have sold out to globalist that allow anyone and everyone to come and go from our country at will unchecked and unregulated. Then they do everything they can to legalize them to vote. A very Orthodox strategy by are authoritarian friends.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We know why you need to believe that.

    Blame is better to give than receive...
     
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    I know that if there was something illegal in it he would have got in trouble with the IRS

    DUH!!!!

    :winner:
     
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    Realy ?

    IRS has stuck how much mafiosi since say, Al Capone?
     
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    How much? where? why? I don't get it. You just say your name.
     
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    I bet Trump gets audited every year
     
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    And our deficit and debt are climbing. Does the GOP only call this out when a DEM is in office? HYPOCITES! SAD!
     
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    About that....where are those tax returns the public was promised?
     
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    Jerry Brown in California won't show his but nobody demands it. I give Trump a jerry Brown pass
     
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    Something no Democrats will acknowledge. They applaud the uneven terms.
     
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    Sure.

    By the way, Trump never provide proof that it was audited by the IRS.

    But I know that this kind of "detail" is not important for the Trumpists.
     
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    They seem to support any policy that fleeces the American people
     
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    I'm pretty sure if Trump doesn't file his taxes he would be in trouble

    Get real :roll:
     
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    Is Brown the Prez? No other President has not presented their tax return. If there is nothing to hide then why not release it? What you did there was move the goalpost. Nice try lightweight.
     
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    You appear to be unable to think critically then; I am unable to assist you with this. Tks.
     
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    Not really. He hasn't been proven guilty either. But considering his position and power, questions will continued to be asked until verified one way or the other. Either he can continue to deal with the questions, letting them distract from his work in office, or he can prove them wrong. Choice is up to him.

    I was, and they did. Have you not seen the reports on the Russian campaign to disrupt the election? Or do you simply dismiss them due to their source?

    And thanks. It's ok to listen to the extreme voices to hear what they say, but not to take their words as sacrosanct.

    First, let me apologize for my words. The loans were from the Deutsch bank during a time when they were embroiled in the Mirror Trading scheme that allowed Russians to launder their money and bypass US Sanctions, after US Institutions stopped lending to him. He has taken out loans with the Chinese though which makes some of his international moves interesting, but it's more that Trumps businesses is tied into Russian mobsters and heavily connected politicians in possible money laundering scenarios.

    http://ir.net/news/politics/128259/think-know-deep-trump-russia-goes-think-chartinfo-will-blow-mind/ (lots to read but this is the most in-depth version I've read so far)
    http://time.com/4433880/donald-trump-ties-to-russia/ (it's time so it's a little more digestible)
    http://www.golf.com/tour-news/2018/...inks-between-russian-mafia-trump-golf-courses (never expected to see an article about Trump and Russia on Golf.com but here we are)
    http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-deutsche-bank-mueller-2017-12

    Except that isn't true. You still have a functioning immigration system, your illegal issue is a problem, and I actually agree with your ideas regarding the political parties and how they want to deal with the 'illegal' problem (I say just send em home personally. But then who will pick the crops and cut the lawns of those same individuals?).

    That said, no Country can function as an island anymore. Your a service economy that relies on other countries for the goods that the NA population require. Thinking you can upend that within a single Presidential term is insane, and will hurt you in the long run.
     
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    Trump has nothing to gain from releasing his tax return. It's his to do with as he pleases. If he released it and it was all clear it's not like you would care.

    Do you believe that Trump is Putin's puppet?
     
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    See post #55 re. Putin's puppet Trump.
     
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    Trump cannot be a stupid moron and yet the brilliant manipulator and genius that it takes to enrich himself by using his office to do that.

    Obviously his haters paid zero attention to trump over the years, when he spoke about america and how she was getting ripped off, along with other things he is now trying to address. Go to you tube and find out what trump talked about for years even before he ran for president. You will see consistency there with what he is doing today and HOW he is doing it.

    This explains it much better, given you can see the facts of what trump talked about long before taking office than this conspiracy theory being created by people so slanted and biased that if they ever fell down they would roll off the edge into oblivion.

    Looks to me like trump is fighting a war against that "one world order" we first heard about from Bush Sr. The one world order where america gets screwed, her people get screwed and she serves as the Host for the blood sucking parasites. Trouble is, his haters are not mentally capable of seeing reality. So, they are moot IMO. Of no value, except to mutually masturbate among themselves.

    I wanted the status quo destroyed, which is why I voted for Sanders, but I don't give a damn who destroys it, and trump looks to be doing a decent job so far in doing that.

    And if he sees success for the american people, in his methodical madness, this old liberal will cast his vote for trump in 2020. First time I ever voted for a republican in my life time. At 76 years old. But he isn't your establishment scumbag, sell america out, republican. And he sure isn't one of these modern treasonous democrats. He is the first patriot we have had since JFK IMO.
     
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