Trump is ticked off, and it's easy to see why.

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  1. WhoDatPhan78

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    You haven't read the indictment.
     
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    He's guilty.
    "Let justice be done though the heavens fall."
     
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    Indeed. It's because he is guilty of the worst crime of any potus in history- trying to overturn an election he lost- and everyone is finding out what a truly deplorable character he really is.
    It must be a traumatic time for such a malignant narcissist, having your lying facade dismantled so publicly for all the world to see.
    Heck, even Ivanka has abandoned the trump name and now calls herself Mrs Kushner.
    But the current indictments about paying off people and stealing government secrets are small potatoes compared to what he did between November 4 and January 6 to steal the election.
    Nevertheless, in the end they got Al Capone for tax fraud instead of for the multiple murders he committed over the years, so I'll be happy with whatever outcome nails him to the wall.
    But I think that our emphasis as a country must be to hold him to account for his attempted coup.
    That is trump's uniquely un-American crime as potus.
    I wonder how the maga horde will try to spin trump's attempted coup when they indict him for that?

    https://dnyuz.com/2023/06/10/bathroom-reading-at-mar-a-lago/
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We can say the same thing about the witch hunt against Hillary that started even back in the 90s, but in spite of the unrelenting attacks on her, she didn't end up facing a string of local, state and federal criminal charges or try to organize a coup after losing an election.
    What you people refuse to face, probably out of extreme personal discomfort, is that trump is a true criminal who has abused his power of office and betrayed our country and was in total dereliction of duty.
    There is no way to spin what he did to overturn the election between November and January.
    The longer maga tries to save face, the more they hurt our country.
     
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    It’s not a witch hunt. It’s a serial crime spree driven WHICH hunt.
     
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    But since the Trump supporteers don't have anything except their staggering hypocrisy, they have to defend it.

    Trump supporters here won't address facts. They always deflect with insults, or by faking stories about Biden and Clinton.

    That's because they can't address the facts. Trump supporters literally care nothing about the facts. While liberals hold to absolute morality, Trump supporters have gone all-in with their "Anything my side does is good, by definition" subjective morality.
     
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    Do you think he should have deleted 30,000 emails and destroyed electronic devices that were currently under subpoena?
     
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    What does that have to do with a politically driven witch hunt?
     
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    So, you agree its politically driven?
     
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    And the 37 investigations that turned up nothing before should just be ignored?

    Lol

    Radically driven partisans are ok with a banana republic when it serves their political agenda. Sad.
     
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    I'm not a Trump supporter.

    I'm anti partisan extremism ruining the country like the liberal left are engaged in.

    I dont want to see any alligator tears from the left when the right starts all their investigations in eye-for-an-eye format.

    Radical partisans are the worst.
     
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    You are probably right about Biden not doing any of this. Biden is so far gone mentally, he probably has no idea when his cabinet is doing most of the time.

    As for dismissal of the importance of this, you are missing a very important point. Prosecuting you political opponents is not healthy in a democracy. I dare say if the Trump or even the George W. Bush administrations were doing this to their political opponents, you would be screaming that Democracy with coming to an end. Partisanship colors opinions.
     
  13. JohnHamilton

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    Don't expect an answer from the leftists here. If they answer at all, it will be to say that Hillary has never done anything wrong. The best of them will acknowledge that she was using her office to get rich, and that it was one of the reasons why she lost in 2016.
     
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    And she got away with it Scott free too.... So much for the so-called rule of law.

    It is s*** just like that that makes people lose respect for authority and the so-called rule of law.

    It either applies to all of us or it applies to none of us but in the world Democrats have created it only applies to Republicans.
     
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    Isn’t that why we have courts? His own words and actions are the most damning evidence against him.

    This is nothing to laugh about, a former president being indicted, justified though it may, is a national disgrace.
     
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    Nothing.

    It proves that it isn't a witch hunt. Which is why you are scared to death that you might accidentally read it.
     
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    Trump should have just converted all of those files into 30,000 emails and waited for them to be subpoenaed and then deleted them and he would have been good.

    And then destroy the electronic device he had them stored on that was also subpoenaed.

    Anyone that sits here and tries to claim that this is about the rule of law when that witch got away with what she did is clearly sitting here trying to deny that Democrats have weaponized the system and that there is one law for their opponents and one law for them.

    Hillary's the type of witch they like to keep around the house
     
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    And one last time - one crime does not excuse another.
    I have no doubt that Hillary is a piece of work, and I have never voted for a Clinton. I would have no problem watching her put in jail.

    That said, it has nothing to do with Trump's indictment. Two separate crimes, two separate cover-ups.
    Clinton was probably just smarter about what she did with the evidence. Trump kept everything and then tried a botched cover-up AND
    everyone he has worked with hates the guy, so they're rushing to spill his secrets. Karma is a biotch.
     
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    You are correct. There is a growing number of people who are losing respect for Federal Government agencies. The same thing is happening in Canada with their government and in Europe with the EU. Government officials get rich and powerful while the people watch their stand of living decline.
     
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    It's almost like you don't understand that the very same people going after Trump are the very same ones that let her get away with what she did.

    As long as Democrats can get away with something like that you don't have a leg to stand on when Republicans tell you that the system has been weaponized by democrats.... Because it obviously has and they're using their corruption to try to hold on to absolute power
     
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    You are one of the liberals who can see through the Clinton crap. Frankly I think Bill was the best Democrat president since Kennedy, but Hillary is a criminal. She should be happy that she has not gone to jail. The least we can do is keep her out of any more public offices forever.
     
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    TRaitor tRump had Barr’s ear, therefore he and the Republicans, which held BOTH Houses during his tenure, had EVERY opportunity to investigate and indict anyone they felt broke the law. But they brought NO charges against HRC.
     
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    Congressional subpoena . . . which you guys say doesn't matter. Meanwhile, there is no evidence that she had any criminal intent. There is obvious criminal intent with Trump.
     
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    When are they going after Biden? The defense of Biden was that once he was notified about having classified documents, he quickly turned them over. That's the salient point to which Democrats point. However, the salient point between the two that Democrats don't like to bring up was that Trump had the power of declassification when he took those documents, while Biden had no power to declassify those documents. The Constitution puts the scope of the Executive Branch under the jurisdiction of the presidency. Therefore, Trump does not have to follow some bureaucratic process if he chooses to declassify documentation. This would be like Congress not being able to pass laws without following a process dictated by the Librarian of Congress. Furthermore, Biden had them for longer, and his storage of those documents was inadequate. Will prosecutors be going after Biden when he's out of office? Something tells me not, because we now live in a day and age where one party is prosecuting their political opponents. Ironically, it's the same party that are the supposed defenders of democracy.
     
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    So how are people running for office?
     

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