Trump knew about Russia all along!

Mumbo jumbo? Yeah right. Your facile dismissal followed up with more partisan bullshit belies the fact that you have no clue of how it all actually works. That ain't mumbo jumbo, that is just a small sample of the mechanics of propaganda. Yet another example of Dunning Kruger being endemic in Trumpland.

I agree that Hillary ran a terrible campaign and trump ran a better one. I agree that Hillary made mistake after mistake by underestimating Trump nor the effects of the RUSSIAN military cyber warfare campaign.

It seems you and your fellow trumpettes refuse to comprehend how it all works in the first place, once again claiming the effect as the cause.

Trump does get credit for winning. I believe that credit came in the form of taking the OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT.

 

let his FBI investigate it... about all he could do, same as he did with the investigation of Clinton emails, that is their job to investigate, trump seems to be trying to stop this investigation into Russia

 

The title of this thread is wrong. It should read Obama knew about Russia all along.

 

Yet all evidence is to the contrary.

 

I have asked before and will again. What exactly should he have done that he didn't do? If you think Trump is good for the country and Obama was a disgrace, it only shows how ignorant you are to the needs of the nation.

 

Is this another example of your logic? Sorry rhetorical question, of course it is.

 

Not in any way shape or form. All the hearing reveal the lies and collusion of the Obama regime.

 

Interesting perspective ya got there.

 

I'll ask you again, exactly what was Trump supposed to do about it when he wasn't even president?

You can't hold Trump accountable with no power and let Obama off the hook when he did have power.

 

He could do nothing until Jan20. ONce he was president, doesn't he have a sworn obligation to defend the nation? Seems he REJECTED the IC findings for the next 19 months before being forced to accept it AFTER his Putin meeting while still screwing it up.

Let's just focus on what TRUMP has done. ZIP. Did he launch coordinated /DoD/Intelligence community to build appropriate defenses and formulate various responses? Ah NO. Did he call for the development and implementation of regulations wrt mimimizing the effects of social media weaponization? Ah NO. Did he confront Putin forcefully as the leader of the western world. An even bigger no. Did he spend his time smearing the intelligence community and American federal law enforcement AND his own DOH, ah YEP

Don't take a rocket surgeon to figger defending trump by whining about what Obama did or didn't do, is nothing but fallacious whataboutism.

 

So why couldn't Obama do what you expected Trump to do when he took power?

Obama already had that same power.

Didn't Obama have a sworn obligation to defend the country also?

 

Because he was a lame duck, he determined that any actions he took would be taking the decision out of the hands of the incoming president. He wanted to alert the American Public in Sept, but was cockblocked by McConnell.

So what he did was slap on a few more heavy sanctions, kick out some "diplomats" and seize russian property in the US, while preserving all evidence collected (he did that AFTER the election - wonder why?).

And besides, Trump is president now and we know WAY WAY more about the sophistication and scope of the attack, so why has he been so derelict? Obama is old news, and sure as hell aint' the cause, but for some reason Trump seems to be the cause of NOT taking more decisive actions (both defensive and offensive).

 

How could congress block the president?

Not going to happen.

The fact is that he should have spoken out against known election tampering and dealt with it, its what we hired him for.

To defend our nation whether its his first day on the job or his last.

He chose to play politics with known data that harmed America.

What Trump is being accused of is something Obama actually did. Remained silent and allowed a foreign enemy to interfere with our elections.

That is the definition of treason in the highest order.

 

I beg to differ. I don't think Trump will make to 2020. He is bored with the job, completely inept, and he knows it. He wants to play golf.

He is begging to be impeached.

 

it's possible he will resign before then so that his vp can pardon him, but that wont happen till closer to the election if it does

we will know as first he will pardon his family

 

Why did Obama do nothing when Russia stole a Crimea? Was he just a lap dog for Putin?

 

Jonsa, are you saying you DIDN'T know about Russian meddling for the last 70 years?
Are you Rip Van Winkle?

 

Nice try = failed.
Whenever a Dem is in office they get their data stolen. The Russians tried to steal Republican data, but Republicans are just smarter.

 

No I am not saying that. I grew up during the cold war.

I am saying that Trump knew all about the russian military attack on America, its people and its institutions BEFORE he was inaugurated. So all of his actions since becoming president were taken KNOWING this. All his "russia is a hoax", "its a made up story", "its a deep state conspiracy", "its dems so butt hurt about losing they are trying to get me", its "fake news" and on and on.

And then he goes and kneels in front of Putin while the rest of the world looked on in utter disbelief.

So what I am saying is that Russia ain't America's competitor, it is its principle enemy.

Tough guy trump intimidated by a real tough guy and we all watched.

 

Really? And what is being done about all this so called corruption?
I'll help you, nothing. Why? Because it only exists in your mind.

 

So you avoid the question by asking a question that doesn't matter and was never asked.
Answer the question Claire!!

 

You've already had Obama's decisions and actions explained to you multiple times. Yet you persist in ignoring that Trump has had a year and a half to take action against Russia yet he lied about whether he even knew about their hacking, and you say nothing about it.

 

All along? All along made better sense in Jan 1016 after Mr. Obatard IGNORED it, denied it before the election and inauguration! So with Mr. Obatard on record reassuring the American voters there was no way the elections were compromised you wanted Trump to what, say differently then the sitting President?

Canadian Trolls make no sense!

 

That's just it The thread is nonsense!

 

Yes the actual vote counting systems were not compromised. Seems you can't even figure out the difference between that failed russian attempt and the numerous other attack vectors in their military attack on america.

I can only believe that you liked seeing your nation get it up the arse by a Russian dictator. Or at least you put up with it because- Make America Great Again.

But your intransigent ignorance of documented events says it all.