Trump Proposes to End Anchor Babies...

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    Alot of this damage was done in the Congress of 1975. You know, Lyndon B. Johnson and his wonderful(terrible) great society. A lot of the failed programs can stem back to this era of politics, where the government basically capped the true earning potential of millions of Americans in the name of welfare!

    There's a reason even historians have this loser as among the worst Presidents.
     
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    Nobody is counting. They didn't shoot down DACA, and that may well have to be shot down in order to shoot down a Trump EO. Either way, it's about damn time someone on the right puts an end to this bullshit rhetoric out of the left about "comprehensive immigration reform" (aka, they want amnesty for the 10's of millions of illegals here already).

    You want "comprehensive immigration reform", well Trump is your man. :laughing:
     
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  3. Bill Carson

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    LBJ is the largest slave owner in history. He'll own half of South America before we collapse.
     
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    An EO on this is totally unconstitutional. You are looking at a 9-0 defeat.
     
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    just when i think the republicans have found all the minorities to demonize, a new one is found anchor babys lol a really BIG issue
     
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  6. AmericanNationalist

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    Well, I don't think it's totally unprecedented to use an EO to do what would normally go through the constitution(He brings up DACA as an excellent example), Obama once declared it had to be legislative, he decides to do it via an EO and the SCOTUS at the time(a more liberal one to be sure) was like 'okay'.

    I don't think it's far stretched for a more conservative court, who would see the EO as a correction, rather than an amendment itself to do what the then-Liberal court did in 2012.
     
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    ARK was split. DACA wasn't defeated.

    You are way ahead of yourself.

    ARK was decided using English common law, not the Constitution. The US government argued against anchor babies in the ARK case. Do a little research before folding like a cheap suit to the left, thanks.
     
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    OK you talked me into it.
     
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    The only people who are not under the jurisdiction of the United States are foreign diplomats and others who have been granted diplomatic immunity by the US State department.
     
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    Yeah, as an executive order, this would never fly. Congress would have to pass a law to amend 8 U.S. Code § 1401, but it's not a constitutional issue, as the hysterical leftists would have you believe. The drafters of the 14th Amendment were pretty clear on what they meant.
     
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    Thank god I didn’t go to Trump University. If I did , I would also do the math like (100-63) = 37 and come up with unemployment rate?
     
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    Why not conservative get off their a$$ and work. No need to reform anything. Just go to work and be a productive citizen.

    I thought conservative teach personal responsibility.
     
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    I'm not going to do all the work for you.....as a leftist I'm sure you expect it. Sorry, ain't happening.
     
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    Are you suggesting that our laws do not have jurisdiction over people not born here?
     
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    Can work if their jobs have been eliminated.. Every Conservative I know here is working, an illegals too ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  16. AmericanNationalist

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    Technically speaking, no they don't. As an example, with ICE, we deport criminal aliens back to their nation of origin(be it Mexico or any of the Caribbean States.). Here's a real logical, non-political way to view it: Do you think the framers wanted the laws of the US to be prevalent across the whole globe?

    We see in Russia and China, the population constraints with just over a billion people. Hell, our own 330 million has anywhere to 20-40 million of them in poverty lol.

    The one reason for the political debate is that the left wing side doesn't understand: There's limits to this ****. That's why we vehemently disagree on our international obligations. We're not the government of Europe, and even Europeans should demand more from their own government.
     
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    Yes. And they were clear it meant the children of immigrants. Despite what the hysterical, xenophobic rightwing extremists would have you believe. It's part of the Constitution. So, yes, the 14th Amendment is a Constitutional issue.
     
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    State unemployment rate in the United States as of March 2023
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    Illegal aliens aren't immigrants. Say it with me now lefties....illegal aliens are illegal.

    Momma is illegal, daddy is illegal....yet drop el niño at the county hospital on my dime and it's legal? **** that nonsense.
     
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    Is that the chant you have to say nightly in order to avoid talking about the 14th Amendment?
     
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    So pass a new law that children cannot be used as anchors for illegal parents.
     
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    I'll talk about it all day long but you'll never understand it so why waste my time with your propaganda?
     
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    Trump's proposed EO would do just that. Thanks for catching on. :thumbsup:
     
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    I agree with what the 14th Amendment says and how the courts have always interpreted it. But thank you for admitting that you can't argue against that and that you'd be wasting my time with your propaganda if you continued attacking the Constitution.
     
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    Constitution > EOs. Those of use who don't share the right wing authoritarian ethos understand that.
     
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