Trump says Russia meddling is a "hoax"

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Once again, Trump says Russia did not try to meddle in our election.

    He calls the whole story from our intelligence agencies a "hoax".

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    So which is it? Did Russia try to mess with our election or not?

    Does Trump trust our intelligence agencies or Russia?
     
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    He is of course talking about the collusion narrative.
     
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    Has he 'ever' lied?

    The full answer to that, should tell us what HIS word is worth. :(
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he seems to have trouble disconnecting the two.

    which shows how one-dimensional his mind is
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, he evolved.

    Just like when Obama and Hillary said marriage was between a man and a woman.

    Trump got more information and evolved his opinion.

    You got a problem with that?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have a problem with him lying every other day, yes.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps you should quit judging him on his words and instead, judge him on how his actions are actually affecting the nation.

    So far its mostly positive.

    Economy is great, we aren't in any major wars, he's talking with our "enemies", seriously.....what more do you want?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ive been watching the Dow Jones since he started talking about tarriffs.

    stocks may not rise even 1% this year all because of his stupid mouth.

    ive watched the cost of oil rise since he left the Iran treaty.

    good for oil companies, bad for Americans.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's part of the problem.

    Disagreed. So does Rasmussen.

    Meh. I didn't credit Clinton for the economy either. While Presidents can influence the economy a bit, major changes are years in the making. Far more than two Presidential terms. Example; the Banking and Housing crises of 2008 weren't Bush's fault; those were decades in the making.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not the same thing. Banking and housing can take decades because not everyone is immediately involved. However, tax cuts and consumer confidence can effect many people very rapidly.

    However, the elephant in the room is labor participation. It is still too low and does not appear to want to get better.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you trying to claim that Trump is solely responsible for our economy over the past 18 months?
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I think the one-dimensional messages are yours.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Did I make any such claim? What I said that some actions will cause a more rapid change in the economy than others. The rapid rise in the stock market did appear to be related to Trump because business men tend to trust other business men more than the government. There was an anticipation of actions which would make investments more attractive. The tax cuts helped because it freed up cash.
     
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    According to Intel records that were published/leaked, Intel (FBI, CIA, and other intelligence agencies) met with Trump 2 weeks before the election and told him Russia was hacking the election, and they proved it with Russian emails discussing it. So on this, Trump has been a complete liar from the start, and still is. HE KNEW, and he knows it.
     
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    Yes, I have a problem with it because he didn't "evolve"; HE LIED FROM THE BEGINNING. See my post above for details.
     
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    So he's asking why Obama did not tell the Trump campaign about their own actions?
     
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    No, that's why I asked a question.

    Tax cuts are not a panacea. In fact, they hurt our economy when the PTB keep raising the budget as Trump did.
     
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    Ahh so only democrats can evolve.

    I think we see where you are going with this.

    Hahahahaha
     
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    Im interested in why you omitted the first part of what he said. Do you actually see it? Trump is spot on and you just unknowingly backed his post up 100%. Please tell us why your focus is on Trump when as a FACT it was obama who allowed the meddling. Its a hoax unless you hold obamas feet to the fire. If Russia meddled then Obama was factually the President who allowed it NOT Trump. Explain your misdirected accusation.
     
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    Do you want to know one of the dumbest answers I've gotten when I asked this very same thing?

    "Well Obama knew but he didn't want to disrupt the election by making it public knowledge".

    These people actually believe crap like this.

    They were caught in a huge blowup here, they thought they had Trump until we nailed them and now they are scurrying off into their holes.
     
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    Obama factually was the President. Their claim of meddling FACTUALLY happened under his watch...not a single leftist here..NOR the media will dare even think about the idea of asking him why he allowed it. If they believe the claim then they would be asking him. They arent. This tells us what we already know. The russia didiots are completely full of ****.
     
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    That's why you see them trying to bury this story.

    They thought they had Trump until we said, "well lets hold on a second".

    Its laughable.

    These TDSrs are just literally insane at this point.

    There was even one liberal here who challenged me by saying, "well how do you know Obama actually knew about it"?

    Like they are going to inform Trump, who isn't president but keep that information from the actual president.

    hahahahaha
     
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    Why is it that even with battalions of advisers at hand, US presidents and UK prime ministers still manage to f**k up big time? [​IMG]
     

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