Trump says the press, not Russia, is the 'real enemy of the people'

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  1. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    Was he sucking up to Russia when Americas killed 200 Russians in Syria?

    Was he sucking up to Russia when he put the military and weapons back into Poland after the Gutless Traitor Obama took them out?

    Was he sucking up to Russia when he sold weapons to the Ukraine once again something Obama wouldn't do?


    Don't get me wrong. Your selective outrage is amusing it just isn't accurate.
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Based on some of the responses on this thread, I'm guessing yes.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    And yet your messiah halted the Russian investigation. Why was that?
     
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    And?
     
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    There isn’t a single bone in my body that believes Putin gave a **** about one single Russian soldier.

    And nothing. If Putin wants to die, then push the button. Let’s giddy up and destroy the earth.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To Trump fake news is anything that points out that he has lied or that some of his associates were caught lying to federal investigators during an investigation. Was it fake news that he kind of sucked up to Putin the other day and accused our FBI and DOJ of being involved in a witch hunt?
     
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  7. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    LOL Have you met Obama? You know the one who broke the law and negotiated directly with Islamic terrorists?
     
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    I don't know who's responsible for the misleading and inaccurate title, but your OP points out that Trump said the "fake news media", not the press, is the "real enemy of the people". That's an important distinction and it should have been made in the title for accuracy's sake.

    While I'm sure "progressives" are enamored with their propaganda bullhorns in the media who have thrown objectivity, integrity and facts to the wind, there are a lot of people who agree with the president's sentiments. I certainly don't consider the the media outlets and journalists who deliberately deceive and mislead the public to promote their own interests a friend/ally of the people.

    It's a sad thing that the Fourth Estate is dead, but fortunately we are no longer beholden to the legacy media to obtain all the information we need to be informed citizens. The Internet has revolutionized people's access to information and as the old saying goes, knowledge is power.
     
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    Way to duck the rest of the points too. Not a surprise of course. :)

    Tell me, if Russia is the enemy why did your messiash bend over and take it up the backside when they invaded Ukraine? Hmm?
     
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    I didn’t vote for Obama. I voted Mitt Romney. He called this **** 6 years ago and half the country laughed at him then.

    Now the other half is ignoring his advice and have us a guy who appears to be a puppet on a string!
     
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    What a ridiculously anti American thing to say!!!! What country do you live in, anyway?

    This is total BS.

    Evidently you really want a ministry of propaganda to tell you how great your leader is. No questions, No investigation. No journalism.

    Just happy talk from two male models with a leggy blonde in a short skirt in the middle.

    Fake News is an enemy of the people.

    Unfortunately, Trump supporters couldn't gobble the stuff up fast enough in the fall of 2016, and the man that the fake news helped install appropriated the term to describe any media that doesn't praise him.

    Fortunately, the idea that we should have a compliant media that worships the leaders is not an American one, dispite the fact that there is a substantial minority of rubes who subscribe to that notion, as your post makes clear.
     
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    Name one person calling for war?
    I want the attacks stop and your side wants to keep benefiting from them.
     
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    I don't know. Why should anyone have any dialogue with the US? We've been meddling in elections for many decades now, and at a far greater scale. Does the word "regime change" sound familiar to you? Kennedy, Johnson, Clinton, Bush I , Bush II, Obama/Clinton; all have been involved in regime change at one level or another?

    Why do you on the left apply a mountain of concern to a pebble of sand, while ignoring the mountain of corruption sitting in your own back yard?
     
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    The only stupid was your misinterpretation
     
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    Oh Well I believe you.

    Then why did you run from the other points on Poland and the Ukraine if you didn't believe in your messiah?
     
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    This is a direct translation of what Vladimir Putin said to his diplomatic corp yesterday before going on to his prepared speech. It was meant as an instruction as to what they will encounter and to take it into account.

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    "We can see forces in the United States, which would easily sacrifice Russian-American relationship for the sake of their ambitions in domestic political struggle in America. They would sacrifice the interests of the US business, which loses contracts and ties in Russia, US jobs, few as they may be, that rely on Russian-American cooperation,” Putin said.

    These forces "would sacrifice the interests of their allies in Europe and in the Middle East, including the state of Israel... They would sacrifice their own security.”


    “We were taught that a statesperson should always prioritize core interests of his or her nation above everything else. Not so in this case. We see the forces in the US, who put their narrow group and party interests above those of their nation. Our satirists would describe them as ‘pathetic puny people’. But they are neither. On the contrary, they are quite powerful, if they can swindle (deceive) millions of their countrymen to buy stories that would not normally stand to reason,”

    “Such are the facts of life for us today,”
     
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    Sooooooooo muchhhhhhh hypocrisyyyyyyyy.

    First off you’re crying about us wanting propaganda when you are the one adamantly defending it even going as far as to say that criticizing propaganda is un-American.

    And then there’s your claim that we want a media that only sucks up to “the great leader” when it was YOU and your ilk who ****ing loved it when the main stream media was doing literally exactly that with obama. You were never once outraged about that. Never once called for more fair and unbiased reporting. Hell even to this day you will try and claim “that’s not true. The liberal media is the champion of just, fair and unbiased reporting.” You will claim that there is absolutely no flaws whatsoever with the mainstream media. At all
     
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    “If they were I’m sure you’d say it’s fine because we do bad stuff too”

    What exactly was misinterpreted about this dumb statement directly from you?
     
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    So you’d be ok if Russia attempted regime change in America because we’ve deposed dictators? Great logic from the blame America crowd
     
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    All of that probably went right over the average Trumpster's head.

    He's telling his Russian counterparts to work hard for the success of the cyber war he is successfully waging against the US.

    That is clear.

    He has gotten the US President to suborn the interests of the free world to that of Moscow (at least in his construct, anyway).

    The US does not have much business in Russia. Putin talked about this, and the right wing noise machine apparently spread some thin spin about Trump going to Helsinki to negotiate an imaginary trade deal (at least two of the Trumpsters made that claim here).

    It's obviously a ploy to end sanctions, which the Trump Administration is still dragging their feet on in defiance of Congress.

    And the idea that Russia gives a damn about Isreal or its security is laughable. They have all but gotten Trump to acquiesce to their dominance of their client state next door.
     
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    From 2008 to 2016, I think the "rube count" was about as high as it's ever been; and the critical press about the least critical it's ever been. Today, it is just the opposite.
     
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    Did you just designate Iran as Islamic terrorists?
     
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    It’s not saying Russia did it and it’s not saying their attack on our democracy is as bad or worse than 911. It’s just saying you folks are Russian apologists who think America deserves to be attacked.
     
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    These Republicans are either neo cons who thrive with war, or are beholden for their position to the assistance of some powerful people. Let's just call it a flaw in our system - and a very big one.
     
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    The only regime change I am aware of is Iran in 1953 and Iraq in 2003. What are you talking about?
     

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