Trump spreads baseless claim about Dominion Voting Systems after losing election

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    President Trump and campaign surrogates have claimed, without evidence, that widespread voter fraud occurred in the key battleground states that gave President-elect Biden the necessary electoral college votes to become the projected 46th president of the United States. The latest claim, that Dominion Voting Systems, a voting software company used in 28 states, deleted and switched votes intended for Mr. Trump, also does not hold water.
    The president on Thursday tweeted an unsubstantiated story from the pro-Trump One America News Network that Dominion "deleted 2.7 million Trump votes nationwide," citing "data analysis." The post, which was flagged by Twitter, tagged OANN personality Chanel Rion, who earlier in the week amplified the baseless claim that a "glitch" in the system caused Mr. Biden to initially lead in the historically Republican county. The Michigan secretary of state's office said it was a human error that was quickly corrected.

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dominion-voting-systems-trump-accusation/

    Trump is going completely off of the rails.

    It is long past 25th Amendment time.

    I honestly believe that it is possible that Trump will (literally) have to be EVICTED (as a trespasser) on Jan. 20th.

    Does any of Trump's belief in Unfounded Conspiracies surprise you?
     
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    Lets just wait and see how this all plays out before laying blame.
     
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    dupe thread
     
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    It's been playing out since 2011, and we already know how it ends. It's over. It's played out. Thank god.
     
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    Once the Georgia recount is completed, and Biden wins, Trump will admit he lost the race.

    but he will never "concede".
     
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    True.

    He really needs to admit that he lost before the safe harbor deadline (Dec. 8th).
     
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    DOMINION SOFTWARE IN MICHIGAN

    https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/v...otes/507-d8caddb3-71da-4125-85be-9c8c124f66b7

    The department explained there are fail-safes to ensure ballots are counted accurately. Paper ballots are retained and a totals tape, showing the count for each candidate, is printed from each machine. Had the county clerk not noticed the mistake, it would have been caught when the Board of County Canvassers, made up of two Republicans and two Democrats, reviewed the vote totals from each machine with the overall county figures, according to the Department of State.


     
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    Didn't read the link or the OP.

    I came FULL STOP when I read Voting Machines. Machines shouldn't be near the voting process and especially shouldn't be used to tabulate election results.

    Count them by hand, keep the originals for a while.

    But that ship has sailed, one vote, one party, one last time.

    Cheers
     
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    There are cash ATMs all around the world counting in and out tens of billions of bank notes every day yet you think similar machines are not capable of counting a few million votes?
     
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    Rudy Giuliani once got my great respect as mayor during 9/11 ... but since he's been Trump's slimy lawyer and only spreads mental bullshit, all good reputations have been lost.

    After he and she other "lawyer rats" only get resounding slaps in the face with their baseless accusations ... even the recount in the republican ruled Georgia Joe Beidne confirmed as the winner ... they don't stop with the lies and fake news. .. no, now they're starting with conspiracy theories too. Just disgusting the whole thing!
     
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    Even Fox news is saying that the Trump campaign refuses to provide evidence for this claim.

    Fox news asked Sidney Powell for evidence and she refuses to give it
     
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    What is not there cannot be given. ;-)
    But it doesn't seem to prevent anyone from continuing to make baseless accusations and stupid claims ...
     
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    Refusing to provide evidence is evidence that you are a fraud. :)
     
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    Yep, but ATMs spit out something tangible and verifiable to the customer who can immediately repot an error and camp on the bankers desk till rectified.

    Cheers
     
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    In the thousands of uses of ATMs that I've been involved in in my 40 years of using ATMs not once have I needed to camp on the bankers desk. And in my current business I am depositing thousands of pounds in various denominations in ATMs every month and not once has a counting error been made - some notes have been returned because they had a corner folded over.

    Have to laugh at your previous comment "Count them by hand, keep the originals for a while.". We now have a Trumper in this forum saying that the hand count in Georgia is fraudulent after Georgia confirmed the machine count was accurate
     
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    And that's exactly why the counting of votes ... whether by hand or machine ... is always done in teams of two (here in US by 1 x Democrat and 1 x Republican) because of the four-eyes principle!

    But we like to keep this fact quiet as Trump's slimy lawyers and refer to some trolls of alleged or actual election observers of parties who complain that they don't get close enough to the ballot papers.
    The crux of the matter, however, is that they have never been allowed to do this anywhere, because they have to keep their distance in order to prevent them for doing voter fraud. This is standard worldwide ... but let's keep it quiet as Trumponiansabout and throw further ridiculous claims into the area!
     
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    There is a diferences between a voting machine and a ballot tabulating machine. What Dominion makes is a tabulator. The tabulator read the paper ballots and produces a print copy of the results. There is also an LED display that counts the number of ballots read by the tabulator. We keep a manual count by check off of voter list of how many registered voters are given a ballot. The number of ballots read by the tabulator must equal the number of ballots we gave to registered voters minus the number of ballots spoiled. Ok so each candidate can only get one vote per ballot.

    If the tabulator was changing Trump votes to Biden votes we would notice that when we run the final total. In my district we had a total of 1976 votes cast. So if Biden or Trump got 1976 votes we would notice it.

    There's used to be touch screen voting machines where the machine kept track of votes but no paper ballots. I do not believe that that type of machine exists anymore in this country.

    If there was fraud it would have been obvious.
     
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    The Dominion suit has been presented and already adjudicated? Weird... Not seen that yet.
     
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    There will be no Dominion lawsuit.
     
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    Why? Trump told us he would do this before the election. Why placate a pathological lying president denying the President elect his due and dangerously holding up the trasnsition process and the the critical need for the daily intellegence brief way before he steps into office.

    Trump started claiming before the election that left wing poll watchers (meaning democrats) would steal the election without proof.

    https://www.alternet.org/2020/11/trumps-call-for-an-army-of-poll-watchers-is-fall-flat-so-far/

    "At a September campaign rally in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, the president encouraged his audience to be poll watchers. “Watch all the thieving and stealing and robbing they do," he said. “Because this is important."

    He set them up to do just what he did. To simply call Democrat ballots fraudulent regardless of proof that they would do so.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-mail-in-ballots-election_n_5ef096b3c5b6c76a77844c79

    “Trump Baselessly Claims 2020 Election Is ‘RIGGED’ Months Before Any Votes Are Cast”

    “The president said foreign countries are printing phony ballots, but election officials say it would be virtually impossible for such ballots to go undetected.

    This will be the Election disaster of our time,” Trump tweeted, citing an article from right-wing website Breitbart that featured comments Attorney General William Barr made Sunday during an interview with Fox News.”

    Once again Trump encouraged his poll watchers to look for Fraudulent ballots without proof.


     
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    There is plenty of evidence to certify a Recount. Especially, when it involves the Dominion servers. Now, I think Biden won, but Trump has every right in the world to demand a recount regardless of your personal bias and personal hatred.
     
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    Lol if you choose to ignore the fact that before the election Trump stated he wanted to invalidate it on more than one occasion than drink the orange poison and swallow it right down. .
     
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    There are no "Dominion servers." Stop huffing the Cheeto dust.
     
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    Whatever machine they are using to count votes has had issues dating back for years. I didn't make that up. If Hillary and Gore were entitled to recounts, Trump deserves one as well. Especially, with the dubious Dominion history. Stop watching CNN or whatever propaganda machine that feeds you and at least allow a recount just as Democrats got theirs in the past. Fairness has to be for both sides, just not your side. Obviously, you know alot more from huffing cheeto dust than the rest of the educated world.
     
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