Trump supporters asking "WTF???"

The man may be what he is. But regardless of how one sees Trump, I see him as an egotistical opportunist among other things, having him president is the direct result of the choices of the two major parties made for their nominations. I certainly don't have a warm and fuzzy about him. But the man's persona, not stances on issues or capabilities of handling the job is what his supporters love about him. The fact the man doesn't take anything from anyone with out striking right back.

 

Just personal observation. It interesting to see that 88% of Republicans voted for him, but at the time only 81% of Republicans had a favorable opinion of him. Today those same 81% still have a favorable opinion of him.

But how one views Donald Trump is purely a partisan thing. 13% of Democrats view him favorably along with 41% of independents. Independents are split almost evenly with 45% viewing him unfavorably.

 

Voters, perhaps. The exit polls showed that half of those who voted for Trump were anti Clinton voters. Any Tom, Dick or Harry would have done, they weren't necessarily for Trump as being against Clinton and wanted her to lose. This was nationwide as it wasn't broken down to each state.

Remember that 60% plus of all voters view Trump in the negative. 25% of all voters viewed both candidates in the negative. In short a quarter of Americans didn't want either Trump or Clinton to win. But they voted for the most part for the candidate they thought as the lesser of two evils, the candidate the least wanted to lose.

I still believe Trump supporters love the man, not necessarily his stances. Trump speaking to the fears of the workers in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, speaking to the issue they were most interested in as you state, helped him there. Hillary just promised those people just to be Obama's third term.

 

good old fashioned class warfare

 

That is not always a good thing because it can, nad in Trumps case does, lead to inability to persuade someone from the wrong path. The fact he is arrogant enough to think he knows more than most experts on most subjects is a worry

 

More or less. Elections have become where the candidates try to get groups of people to hate the other candidate more than they hate you so you can get their votes. Class warfare or the politics of hate. This last election consisted of very little substance and a whole lot of mud.

 

I would say that is the case most of the time.

 

The Mar-a-Lago Messiah is a vindictive one, no doubt. One recalls his vicious indictment of Carnival Cruz's father in which he had implicated him in the Kennedy assassination after he had defeated Cruz!

Donald J. Trump
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The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!
7:02 PM - 30 Aug 2013


Donald J. Trump
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What I am saying is stay out of Syria.
10:00 PM - 3 Sep 2013


Donald J. Trump
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AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!
9:20 AM - 5 Sep 2013

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Whether one deems Trump's bombing Syria a one off in response to disturbing pictures he saw on tv (He watches a lot of tv.) and a humanitarian act inconsistent with his discrimination against refugees fleeing the predations of Assad and Islamic State, it is a betrayal of his crackpot alt-right enthusiasts. They are turning on him, and that's a good thing - as is Putin's current buyer's remorse.

After his failures to "immediately" repeal 'ObamaCare', his illegal attempt to impose religious discrimination upon immigration, his fairy-dust "big, beautiful wall" paid for by Mexico, and the 10th Amendment frustrating his scheme to nationalize local law enforcement and divert them from their assigned duties to the community, it is certainly prudent to be wary of his predilection for hyperbolic diversionary ploys.

Whether he is coming to grips with his responsibilities that do not accommodate the irresponsible bellywhinging of a sniveling malcontent, let's hope that he has not chanced upon a diversion more effective than the wee-hour, hysterical fantasy tweet.​

 

The proper position of U.S. foreign policy as it relates to Russia is to cooperate with Russia when and where we can, and to oppose them when necessary. In the case of Assad using chemical weapons, it was time to oppose them.

The health care story is not over; it's just on hold. We'll see if Trump learns that congressional Republicans are not going to come up with a health care plan that covers everyone and that is paid for. It is just not in their political DNA to do that. To achieve something like that, Trump will have to come up with something else and go it alone. Tough problem. Keep in mind that, as Obamacare dies its slow death, Hillary Clinton also would have been faced with an extremely difficult problem.

The issue of fighting ISIS and AQ and the missile attack on Syria are really only vaguely related in that they are both have the same venue - Syria. The war against ISIS/AQ continues. The strike against Syria had one narrow message: You may not use chemical weapons in this war.

Don't forget that Trump was elected by rank and file Republicans and Independents who were pretty sick and tired of Establishment Republicans. I predicted that Trump would come into conflict with Washington Establishment Republicans, and he has. I expect he will continue to.

He just got a thoughtful and well-qualified judge appointed to the Supreme Court. Welcome to reality.

My two cents ....

 

Anyone who thinks they can run something as large and complex as the United States of America is almost, by definition a narcissist. Bill and hill certainly are so was Obama.

 

What I find interesting is that those who would be clamoring for Trump to do something about the chemical attack are now haranguing him about doing something and that he should have gotten congressional approval first. These same people let Obama wage war in Libya without congressional action. One can only shrugged.

I don't think Trump really knows what he is doing, more knee jerk reaction than a well thought out plan. That can be extremely dangerous. One needs to take time to weigh all options and the consequences of each action. Attacking a country for something he seen on TV perhaps based on emotion is not good policy.

 

Strawman argument on your part.

 

The irony of Trump actually doing what he repeatedly attacked Obama for considering doing is blatant, but at least he has been accorded bipartisan support in Congress (with both Democrats and Republicans adding the traditional obligatory proviso that he should have first come to Congress.)

Meanwhile, his alt-right extremists are enraged.

However, impulse bombing is not a policy, good or bad. Whether it signals a coherent approach to foreign policy will only become apparent over time.

 

Trump was steadfast in his criticism of Obama for drawing "red lines" and not enforcing them. Assad made a pledge with the UN / US to surrender his WMD's. Trump is tasked with enforcing that agreement.

 

So Trumps decisively punishes the concrete for its roll in chemical attacks at a cost of $60 million taxpayer dollars. It means nothing without an end game plan.
And just to play devil's advocate - what better way for Putin to shift scrutiny off his HomeBoy Trump than to give up an empty Syrian Air Base? Spy-craft 101.

 

Why have so many continually claimed that Donald Trump is a friend or an ally of Putin?

They've apparently never even met.

 

I was listening to some talk yesterday which was stated that Trump wanted to be a domestic policy president much like LBJ did. But foreign policy got in the way. Vietnam for LBJ and Syria and the middle east for Trump. I didn't think much of it then, but perhaps there is something there.

Not going to congress for a single strike doesn't bother me much. Not nearly as much as the Libya campaign did. Democrats at that time stating UN approval was all that was needed not congressional approval really galled me. I do think this attack was purely asinine. 90 million dollars of missiles to prove what exactly? I heard they cost a million and one half a piece.

I think the better policy would have been to confront the Russians about Assad's use of chemical weapons and do it in the UN. After all it was the Russians who verified that Assad had gotten rid of all his chemical weapons. Put the burden of their use on the Russians. This attack just diverted attention away from the Russian guarantee or verification Assad had no more chemical weapons. Lay the blame on them in the arena of worldwide public opinion.

 

Many were.

His repeated attacks on Obama ...

The President must get Congressional approval before attacking Syria-big mistake if he does not!​

What I am saying is stay out of Syria.​

AGAIN, TO OUR VERY FOOLISH LEADER, DO NOT ATTACK SYRIA - IF YOU DO MANY VERY BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN & FROM THAT FIGHT THE U.S. GETS NOTHING!​

... underscores the distinction between indulging in cavalier kvetching and having actual responsibilities.

In any event, it has those who had acclaimed him as their "Glorious Leader" very upset. Predictably, they are attributing Trump's betrayal of his alt-right extremists to Jews:

 

Trump was the only candidate that could beat clinton. The liberals would of chewed up and spit out any candidate not named Trump.

Trump is an independent and I'm hoping GOP takes the mantle. If GOP does pick up on his movement and rhetoric it will be goodnight Irene for the left. The left abandoned that working class in favor of globalism. The blue collar/union workers found a home in Trump. Good luck getting them back when the economy picks up even more. The future bodes well for Trumpites.

 

That's a possible reason for why he did it.

 

Of course it is. Democrats are huge political machine built on cronyism, and making people dependent on their shtick and handouts. You guys never argue how to make people dependent on you and how you make your money, you just do it. ACA is a great example. You guys jammed through a massive regulation and entitlement program. All republicans want it gone but they can't agree.

 

just more dishonesty, I am not a democrat. The ACA was a plan pushed by Romney, Eisenhower and Nixon. You know this stuff is available on the internet so maybe give facts a try.

 

I don't care what you are. You don't seem to understand the movement. I think I speak for alot of republicans when I say 'f' Romney and the ACA

 

I think for many it was anti-Hillary more than pro-Trump.
I voted for Hillary, but only because Trump is a liar, a con-man, and a buffoon.
I voted more anti-Trump than pro-Hillary.
I think America has had its fill of Bushes and Clintons.

 

yes, right wing movements arent new and neither is your disregard for facts.