Trump Threatens Canada ‘Ruination’ on Autos Amid Nafta Talks

No one forces YOU to shop or trade here.

What you want is something like a Costco where they pay YOU to shop there.

Those days are gone with Clinton - Bush Jr. - Obama

 

Canadians are constantly saying negative things about Trump - that is for sure.

No, I am afraid that we are more than just neighbors. We are also business partners and diplomatic/military allies.

Look down on America? Kind hard not to considering our geographic position. OTOH, trump is a man of such low character that its impossible not to look down on him.

Sneering at your neighbors? We were the best of neighbors before Trump decided to sneer at Canada and accuse us of being rip off artists using a rather big pile of absolute bullshit to support his idiot negotiating tactics. Tactics which so far has not closed a single friggin deal.

I do agree that both countries are great with great people. I also firmly believe that after Trump, our relations will return to the rails with the usual spats and nonsense that such close partners put up with.

BTW Holier than thou sure doesn't look good on ya.

 

Trump is crazy....

 

Nah. Your comedians, entertainers and actors just aren't able to get enough work up there so they come to the US. Wouldn't really consider them to be intellectual.

 

Yes, the arts sure aren't intellectual in the minds of many mental giants.

 

Trump Threatens Canada ‘Ruination’ on Autos Amid Nafta Talks
We have a wretched bully representing us in the U.S. What an embarrassment. Unknown to Trump, a "good trade agreement" is one which delivers positives to every participant, not one which favors one side only. Canada is the largest U.S. export market in the world, and Trump wants to bully it into submission. Why? What do we gain by convincing our closest friends & neighbors that we're their enemy? That's nuts. Trump is nuts. Trump supporters are nuts. Trump's whole trade tariffs & one-sided (America First) trade programs are totally crazy. They don't help anyone--especially the U.S. Trump economics are crazy economics.

 

Really? If a friend of yours treated you like Trump is treating Canada, would you be enthusiastic about preserving that friendship? I say no. Trump is wrong. His supporters need to get a brain and recognize that fact.

Is your concern for others limited to those who are U.S. citizens?

 

Our partnership is stronger than trump. Sure feeling get bruised and animosity flares up for a while but then hockey season starts.

 

You asked me " If all those trade deals and the trade deficit were so bad for America, how ever did it become by FAR the richest most powerful nation in human history?" and I told you.

Then Canada should drop it's dairy tariffs, otherwise it's not free enterprise or free trade

Then why are they not equal with "by FAR the richest most powerful nation in human history ?

The Magna Carta should be the template.

Was it?

I guess.

 

Blame Canada. They make life difficult for our workers by running a trade deficit with us, and they get us good with their overall low tariffs.

 

If the shoe fits . . .

 

Will we drop our dairy farming subsidies? If not, Canada should duplicate our subsidies.

 

Yep, bad Canada. They run a trade deficit with us and hit us with lower overall tariffs than we impose on them.

 

Yes, a sociopath.

 

I think since Canada is such a good friend, they should give us the same import deal on diary products they did the EU. Would a friend charge the US a 270% import tariff and 0% to the EU?

 

no you didn't.

The minute the US ends its dairy subsidies that cover 70% of large producer production cost.

I guess your truly are ignorant of how America achieved its leadership position. And completely ignorant of the history of the world in the past 100 years or so.

It was a source document.

ya think?

 

Consequences go two ways. How are we going to react to them restricting our access to their raw materials in favor of countries like China? How will we react to China facing lower Canadian tariffs than we do? How about them going back to vacating our drug patents as they did before NAFTA? How will we feel if they refuse to make the sacrifices to their physical environment necessary to supply us with water?


Trump Dealing With Canada

 

easy. just nuke us.

 

Or both drop all subsidies and tariffs on both sides and make the markets more honest. That will save consumers a lot of money.

 

Maybe the answer was just too complicated. Do you have another theory?

That may be. Perhaps you can give your explanation..

 

Obviously, you don't know how their system works regarding tariffs. The end result of NAFTA talks may be improved access to their market.

 

Oh, now--you don't want to do something that makes sense, fer crissake.

 

Notwithstanding its abundance of natural resources and a society built upon iconic democratic values and principles, the first geo-political leap was WW1. While the industrial nations beat the crap outta each other American land and industry remained unscathed empowering an aggressive export market development strategy. Then of course WW2 and a virtual complete economic reset brought about by all out war. Once again American land and industry remained relatively unscathed (Pearl Harbor obviously excepted) but both allies and enemies were devastated. Lend Lease morphed into the Marshall Plan meanwhile American victors began implementing a comprehensive global security strategy that included such elements as "imperialism", long term military occupation projecting power to every corner of the globe and diplomatic alliance building to stitch it all together.

Amazing actually the power that those iconic democratic values and principles have around the world. Too bad trump is making so many question what the hell is happening.

 

That seems the most likely. Ultra filtered milk in particular. And I wouldn't be surprised if we trade our dairy supply management scheme for a real deal once and for all on softwood lumber. But the culture and dispute mechanism issues? just don't see much compromise there.

 

So it wasn't free enterprise and democracy which made the US a world power?

Had the US not become involved in European wars they would have been even more 'unscathed'. Like Switzerland perhaps.