Trump to NFL owners: Fire players who kneel during anthem

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  1. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree it's s hot potato and owners are in a no win situation but this politicization of football will be it's demise. The only chance owners have is to say no politics on the field, play football only or go get job at the car wash, the other thing you're qualified to do.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you work in the medical field? What qualifies you to make a remark like that?
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently you don't know what makes America great. Btw if the national anthem means so much to you, do you play it and stand at attention every morning before breakfast?
     
  4. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    To play the devils advocate here, even if owners say no politics on the field then what's to stop somebody from saying "Well standing during the national anthem is political expression too. If I can't kneel to show my non support then you can't stand to show your support".

    An average lawyer can make a case like that pretty easily and I'm sure plenty of them would be hired if teams decided to try to make a policy like that. You know how the world is nowadays....
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I took you seriously until your first sentence.
     
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    The military is pretty easy to understand.. keep your mouth shut do as your told like a good little peon and don't question anything. Like when some jackoff is told to carpet bomb a school or open up on civilians with the chain gun in Iraq and they do it. They are cowards in my opinion because they were supposed to be protecting those who cannot protect themselves not killing them.

    However here in the real world we have something called principals and when we see stupidity we should act. In my mind that athlete is a real hero because he is the only one present with the balls to disagrèe with his country and let them know it. If my country was acting irresponsible and reckless I would not hesitate to take a knee because I'm not a peon and I love my country. Real friends don't let there friends drive drunk and it seems the U.S. has a man drunk on power behind the wheel.
     
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  7. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why don't you tell me what makes this country great. I'm sure you think your wife is great and you show your respect by spitting on her, stepping on her and setting her on fire. Am I right?
     
  8. Canucker

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    What part of a country is not a person do you not understand?. Blind nationalism is how Nazi Germany got started and I'm hoping the U.S. is smarter than that. North Korea is another example of what blind nationalism produces... fascism.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WOW!

    With an ability to deflect like that, if you were a hockey player you'd be a goal scoring sensation.

    But as a trump troll at best it merely merits a mirthless, pathetic chuckle.
     
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  10. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Two cringeworthy remarks ... :blankstare:
     
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    So let's, first of all, stop calling him President.
    To much honor for this racist slime.
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First of all, you have never served in the military, and you know zero about it.

    Secondly, he's not taking a knee to protest the president. He started doing that while Obama was president.

    And lastly, there is nothing heroic about embarrassing your employer by showing disrespect to the country while taking millions of dollars of his money.

    "A real hero" ... ugh! Another truly cringeworthy post. :blankstare:
     
  13. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you ever talk to me like that again, I'll put you on my ignore list; do you understand?
     
  14. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Say what?
     
  15. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I see where you're upset and I apologize for it, but I wasn't taking a shot at your wife, heck, I have no idea if you're even married....to a woman no less. But the point of my comment was that how can anyone claim to love something only to disrespect it in the most disgusting ways imaginable?
     
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    First you do not know me. Second the athlete was protesting bigotry and racism which is practically Trumps brand. Lastly, an employer pays an employee to perform a service... period. They do not own the employee nor can they tell them what to do outside the context of said employment.. understand?. He was not taking money he earned it and he was not disrespecting his country he was standing up for it's founding principals.
     
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    says the crowd pulling statues down. Seems you like free speech as long as its what you want to hear. Is it ok for someone to say they hate black people without fear of getting fired? Lets see if you really believe what you just wrote.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Gee do you really think that that peopke who protest think there will be no consequences. Guess you have never protested anything in your entire life.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Well I will certainly agree that the verisimilitude of significance is the oppisite of gravitas.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but your attempt to equate racism with free speech just won't cut it. But they are the same at least in the fact that you can indulge in either if you are willing to take the consequences.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    The consequences of his lying was that the morons elected him President.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Oh comon. All football is trumped up conflict with no actual meaning. Perhaps we could have Republican and Democratic teams. Or White teams versus black teams. Or free speech versus censorship teams. The future of football is wide open.

    It will just take a true visionary to harness the emotional possibilities of coupling football with really important conflict. Heck we could even have teams from North Korea, and China and Russia playing out the international conflicts on a one hundred yard stage. The possibilities are endless.
     
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    I could see if he was burning the flag at a game; however the first amendment allows him to sit, kneel or lie on the ground if he so chooses; that doesn't protect him from being fired depending on what his contract says. That being said, one does not have to love their country by standing for the national anthem, instead rather by showing respect for and defending our constitution.
     
  24. Steve N

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    I was raised in a fashion that our flag and national anthem are nearly sacred and that belief holds true today. You can say that our flag and anthem represent our constitution in that they represent America which is based on the constitution. I guess you and I will have to agree to not agree on this point.
     
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    fair enough.
     

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