Trump Tower blaze kills man on floor without sprinklers

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dems bitterly cling to false narratives.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump stopped opposing fire sprinkler laws when NYC added a grandfather clause to the new law.

    which he of course pushed for.
     
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    If it is not code, developers aren't going to incur the extra costs. Trump would not be alone in this, but I find it crazy that it would not be code to have sprinklers in residential units that high up. The largest building I have done was seven stories, and that place had sprinklers in every single unit in the building.
     
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    its not code cause Trump pushed for a grandfather clause, which affected Trump Tower
     
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    It’s what we call Fake News. Any way to bash Trump is considering a good thing in MSM land.
     
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    I see what you did there. Well played............
     
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    They were not mandated when the building was built.

    The building was completed in 1983, several years before sprinkler systems were mandated. Owners of older, residential high-rises are required to add the systems only when major renovations take place.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ire-no-sprinkler-system-apartments/497058002/
     
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    sprinkler systems save lives.

    Trump fought against a NYC law mandating sprinkler systems, but relented when they added a grandfather clause for buildings like Trump Tower.
     
  10. Steve N

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    I've been in more high rise apartments than anyone has a right to, and the one thing that always floated around in the back of my mind was if something in an apartment happened there was only one way out. Back when I was living in PR I lived on the 19th floor of a high rise and later on I moved to San Juan and into an apartment on the 3rd floor. When I lived on the 19th floor that building had two elevators and two stairwells, when I lived on the 3rd floor that building had one elevator and one stairwell, neither building had any kind of fire suppression facilities. My wife said she would never move into a high rise because of the lack of escape and difficulty of being rescued if something went south.
     
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    if Trump didn't fight against the NYC sprinkler law, this guy would still be alive and four brave FDNY would not be in the hospital.
     
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    Liberals have been running NYC for decades. Why didn't they put the mandate in? Trump lobbied decades ago.........libs have done nothing since.

    But, this is all Trump's fault. TDS on full display.
     
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    You can say the same thing about illegals and their dead victims. The thing is, when we want to save lives no one listens.
     
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    wealthy developers got Rudy Guiliani (GOP) to add a grandfather clause to the new law.

    and now someone is dead.
     
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    There is nothing that prevented all the Dems running NYC to pass a law getting rid of the grandfather clause. This guy's death is the result of Dem malfeasance.
     
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    no its due to lobbying by wealthy developers like Trump.

    he has blood on his hands
     
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    Nope. It is due to the Dems who are actually in charge of running the city, and can actually vote on such things.
     
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    I would liken living in a high-rise apartment complex to letting a plane full of drunks each take a turn at the controls.

    not to make anyone paranoid or anything, but your very life, attached-housing dweller, is almost continuously in the hands of people you don't know or have any control over...you don't know if they're suicidal, homicidal, halfwits, dipshits, inattentive parents, addled by mind-altering substances, or suffering from medical conditions that could kill them while they're deep-frying a batch of chicken wings.

    Recently sold a triplex I purchased in 2005. About six months into ownership, the FSU-student middle tenant had a pretty major grease fire at 2:30 on a Sunday morning (after the bars close?)....she said she was frying french fries (munchies?) and was distracted by a phone call (booty call?). No one was hurt, thank goodness, but everyone was displaced for about two weeks.

    be careful out there, kiddies.
     
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    so you're saying trump didn't lobby against sprinkler systems?
     
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    Nope. Didn't say that.

    I said he lobbied for it decades ago, and since then Dems have been running NYC and did nothing.

    That puts this guy's blood on the hands of the Dems who have actually been in the position to do something for decades, and chose not to.
     
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    if you owned a 58 story building, would you install fire sprinklers on the upper floors?

    i sure would, code or no code.
     
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    Completely irrelevant.
     
  23. Ronstar

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    LOLOL!!!!

    its a simple question, why refuse to answer it?
     
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    I told. Because it is completely irrelevant.

    Next?
     
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    i cant believe u wouldn't put fire sprinkers in a high rise tower.

    why not? just to save some dollars? at the expense of peoples lives?

    sick.
     

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