Trump Tweets Bring Baby to US

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  1. Russ103

    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who created the child? And who's responsibility is he until he's an adult?
     
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    cool, if the parents decide to put it into a gas chamber, its also their decission, because tehy created it and its their responsibility ha ha
     
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    Amazing! You just destroyed a position, that no one holds!

    Texas Sen. Ted Cruz's idea that an Obamacare plan remain available to anyone who wants it is brilliant.

    It is very simple, Individual Americans choose their own doctors or their own insurance plans, according to their own needs. To this day, the Left cannot accept that fact Trump won precisely because he is not one of them. No they are trying to sabotage him. And for this they are earning the contempt of the voters.
     
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    We have a concept in Europe called dignity and human rights. The parents dont own the baby. They mistreat its human rights for selfish gains.
     
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    Yes. You give The State not the parents the final say, and as this case shows, that reduces down to, if the State wishes, it can command your baby to die. We in the US have a completely different view of the rights of the Individual vs the Power of the State. In our system, the State serves the Sovereigns, which are the individual people, and the State could never command a baby a die in a case such as this.

    If you prefer your system, by all means, stay there.
     
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    The baby is already dead. It has no brain function left. It doesnt breath. Its hold alive by machines. Its cells are without mitochondria. They dont create energy. When you pull the plug its dead. Thats the reality.

    So how long should this farce continue?

    What views on the rights of indviduals you have over there can be seen at your death penalty.

    Tell me, how is this called in english, when someone practices totally different than what he preaches?
     
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    Well, that's under dispute, but to answer your first question, is it until the State tires of the situation or the Parents? Here, it's the parents, not the State and we view this as a far superior arrangement of Individual Rights vs State Power, for us. You're welcome to your system, I prefer ours.
    Are you really arguing that since we command dangerous felons to die for their crimes that we have no right to object when you command an innocent baby to die?
     
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    You executed innocent people in the past and found out later.

    And no, in Europe we dont give parents the right to torture their child.
     
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    'We' keep all viable beings alive and the state pays via universal health care. 'You' keep viable beings alive only if they can pay for the care themselves. Who is going to pay for the massive cost in 24/7 intensive care that will be needed even if the 'cure' is 100% successful?
     
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    Ah you're in Europe, I should have known. Explains quite a bit about your thinking, along with submission to authority.

    I pity you. I wasn't born in the US, but thank God every day for my parents bringing me here.

    Hopefully you can experience that one day.
     
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    What is my thinking? Why should i support the personal bullshit of this couple who block life saving machines with the dead meat they want hold artificial alive? A can of catfood holds more life than this brain dead kid.
     
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    No. Except for the orphans, infirm and aged, everyone purchases the policies and healthcare they want, Obamacare and the Exchanges if they so desire. Those that need assistance, we corporately assist through government subsidies.
     
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    That's under dispute, but even if you are right, why must the State order him to die?
     
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    i) He is brain dead.
    ii) He is being tortured.

    Shouldn't you have to choose between i) and ii)?

    How exactly does one "torture" the "brain-dead"?
     
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    To make place for someone who actually has a chance? You do realize there are not many such machines?
     
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    They are preventing the parents from transferring their child to US doctors for treatment.
     
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    Which is ok, since even that doctor says thats madness and crazy.

    I know you guys dont know what dignity means but over here the parents can not do what they want with the corpse of the kid.
     
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    Well good for you. We all have the right to make our own choices and to respect the choices of others. These can be stressful to work through, but cute puppies always help.

    Here, on the house:

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