Trump wants to delay the election? Really?

Non argument (irrelevant deflection, off point).

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I didn't assert that you spoke for Mr. Calabresi, I asked you why someone of his caliber would assert the following:

But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president’s immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate.

You, of course, cannot answer that question. Moreover, Calabresi also wrote:

Election Day was fixed by a federal law passed in 1845, and the Constitution itself in the 20th Amendment specifies that the newly elected Congress meet at noon on Jan. 3, 2021, and that the terms of the president and vice president end at noon on Jan. 20, 2021.
which quells the premise given your comment. Your position relies solely on the context of the moment, it doesn't factor in who Trump, historically, and unequivocally has revealed who he is, and, as such, we must hold any motive which drives Trump with the utmost suspicion. No one is saying Trump IS a fascist, but he has given statements that are compatible with fascism.

Fascism is a genus of political ideology whose mythic core in its various permutations is a palingenetic form of populist ultra-nationalism. --Roger Griffin "The Nature Of Fascism".

Why? Trump has hinted in ways which belies envy of permanent dictators. He has stated things, on numerous occasions, that is compatible with fascist principles. So, when he utters something like 'can we delay the election' on the stated reason 'to figure out what is going on' we must put that statement in the context of who Trump is, i.e., someone who envies the absolute power of dictators to such a degree hitherto not seen by previous presidents. Therefore, we must question Trump's motives, we would be foolish not to.

"I'd like to punch them in the face, I tell ya" -- Trump
"Nobody wants to hurt each other anymore" --- Trump



So, excuse anyone who 'get their panties in a wad' when Trump says something like he did, and that is probably why Calabresi wrote the OpEd.

 

He wants to prevent stuff like this:
"EVANSVILLE, Ind. — Prosecutors have filed a felony election fraud charge against Vanderburgh County Democratic Party activist Jan Reed, who was accused last month of illegally sending hundreds of absentee ballot applications with instructions leaving voters no choice but to participate in her party's June 2 primary election."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...aces-felony-election-fraud-charge/ar-BB15d65d

 

Aiding Russia's disinformation efforts to thwart the American elections, our President announced that "2020 will be the most inaccurate and fraudulent" vote in history.

That was the last straw for Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell who wants Republicans to retain control of the Senate in the November elections. The party leader trashing those elections is counter productive to that goal.

Sen. Mitch McConnell is allowing Republican Senate candidates to do whatever it takes to salvage their campaigns ahead of what Republicans increasingly fear could be a devastating election for their party.

In recent weeks, the Senate majority leader has become so concerned over Republicans losing control of the Senate that he has signaled to vulnerable GOP senators in tough races that they could distance themselves from the President if they feel it is necessary, according to multiple senior Republicans including a source close to McConnell.

That could mean breaking with Trump on the administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic and the continued efforts by the President to paint an optimistic picture despite rising cases and deaths across parts of the country, especially in many Republican states in the South and Midwest.

McConnell signal to Republican Senate candidates: Distance from Trump if necessary - CNNPolitics

 

You seem to be short a link.

 

You seriously want to go down this rabbit hole? Okayyyyy.....
Jan who? You scoured the landscape for some local chapter operative involved in alleged shenanigans? She doesn't even have wiki entry. She'll get probation for that, if convicted. In a national campaign, you're always bound to find some eager beaver small potatos chapter operative short on brains who'll make mistakes like that. BFD.

How about the fact that Trump hired a firm indicted for, you guessed it, voter fraud, which apparently doesn't bother you.
https://fortune.com/2016/11/05/trump-rnc-voter-fraud/
Donald Trump’s campaign and the Republican National Committee have paid at least $1.8 million to a political operative whose roster of companies include several that have been repeatedly investigated for voter registration fraud, even as Trump has complained that the election is rigged against him.
Three employees of Strategic Allied Consulting, a firm owned by conservative operative Nathan Sproul, pleaded guilty in Florida four years ago to felony charges related to altering and destroying scores of voter registration forms.

At least Nathan has a big enough footprint on the body politic to rate a wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Sproul

Salon article on Sproul 'Sproul Play
https://www.salon.com/control/2004/10/21/sproul/

http://baltimorechronicle.com/070505Miller-Irmus.shtml
Sproul got into a bit of trouble last fall when, in certain states, it came out that the firm was playing dirty tricks in order to suppress the Democratic vote: concealing their partisan agenda, tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, surreptitiously re-registering Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms.

 

I didn't have to scour anything. It showed up as a headline in my local newspaper. There were claims of no mail in fraud. This was a case of mail in fraud.

 

Small town stuff. BFD.

 

Our local paper happens to be the capitol city paper. It was hundreds of ballots and it was the one fraud that got caught.

 

Trump wants to delay the election? Really?

No, not really. What he really wants to avoid is mail in voting for people who did not specifically request a ballot.

 

What happens in small towns counts for nothing? Now we have identity politics about the size of communities?

 

Trump has taken away the lefts' avenue to delay the vote, like they advocated for in the primaries, by suggesting delaying the vote. Trump has also come out against income inequality, waiting for the left to go for unfettered free markets.

 

Then don't ask me to speak for him or explain him. If you want to know why he wrote something I suggest you write to him.

Trump never said what the OP claims or the writer of your article says and you have yet to quote him saying he WANTS to or HE WILL delay the election. It's not gonna happen so stop fretting about it.

 

He wouldn't need to float crazy ideas like this around of democrats didn't push for shady, easily corruptible MAIL IN VOTING.
This isn't rocket science to vote the PROPER way during covid. You do it over more days and have less people come in the SAME day. Assign the people groups so the lines are small, wear masks, and stay 6+ feet apart. As I said, not rocket science. Maybe if you shady folks weren't so intent on CHEATING the election, this could be done the RIGHT way and you guys could win with HONOR

 

You wrote "don't get your panties in a wad' which is a sophomoric way of saying 'your reaction to Trump's tweet is unwarranted'.

I'm basing my argument on that of the co-founder of the federalist society, which is precisely why your 'panties in a wad' remark is invalid.
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No one said he did, which renders your request moot.

However, Trump did toss out a 'trial balloon'. That was the motivation. Trial balloons are ideas tossed out in such a way that one can't say 'he said that', it's a way of alluding to something in order to gauge a reaction without taking responsibility for it. Your apologist reaction is expected from Trump supporters, but not expected by supporters who understand that their personal integrity is absolute, and, as such, the reaction more worthy of consideration was Calabresi's, the guy whose federalist society Trump is basing his court selections on. Calabresi got far more than his 'panties in a wad' he wrote an OpEd declaring Trump should be impeached if he does not relent from that position, a fact which you are ignoring. Therefore, your "It's not gonna happen so stop fretting about it." is absurd. Apparently you didn't get the memo that, at the presidential level, words matter.

But, it begs the question: why would Trump offer a trial balloon unless he was considering the idea, and would do it if he knew he had the backing of his party members in the legislature? Therefore, to claim he would like to do it if he knew he could get away with it is a reasonable conclusion which obliterates your notion that it's nothing to be concerned about, 'it ain't gonna happen'. That's a bullshit argument if there ever were one, especially with a guy like Trump.

 

It may happen, but it won't be due to Trump:

"But conveniently, a group of former top government officials called the Transition Integrity Project actually gamed four possible scenarios, including one that doesn’t look that different from 2016: a big popular win for Mr. Biden, and a narrow electoral defeat, presumably reached after weeks of counting the votes in Pennsylvania. For their war game, they cast John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, in the role of Mr. Biden. They expected him, when the votes came in, to concede, just as Mrs. Clinton had.

But Mr. Podesta, playing Mr. Biden, shocked the organizers by saying he felt his party wouldn’t let him concede. Alleging voter suppression, he persuaded the governors of Wisconsin and Michigan to send pro-Biden electors to the Electoral College.

In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned. The House named Mr. Biden president; the Senate and White House stuck with Mr. Trump. At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to the media for cues, and waited to see what the military would do."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/...n-coverage.html#click=https://t.co/kDEzgI0ejl

War Games already being played out by Podesta.

The War Games began with the pink K~unt caps protest at the last inauguration and have continued unabated.

 

Just a bunch of Dem/MSM nonsense the inflame voters.

 

Quote him saying he WANTS to delay the election and would do it on his own by some unexplained manner. As I noted the same "trial balloon" was floated during the 2012 election and went nowhere. So relax.

 

I disagree. In rural areas in particular, poll workers are USUALLY older (retired). Their numbers were scarce enough before Kung Flu but now are even more scarce, for legitimate health concerns for older people. Long hours for older people are also a strain, but so very, very few people want to be workers. Instead they want to stupid-vise and not have to come within 6 feet of a masked but potential threat.

 

It made no difference on that front, true, but it did marvelously well at poking a flaming stick through the bars of the cage to watch the liberals react. Just look at all the hysterics posted here about something they can't even prove he actually said. I mean it. Look at it. Trump won. He's rent-free in their heads and he's staying there.

 

Lot's of my cashiers are older people. When I voted three weeks ago they were behind the plexiglass, contact was very minimal, I even scanned my own ID after she looked at it. And they have shifts and they rotate they don't have to work straight 13 - 14 hours the polls are open.

 

Michigan's primary is tomorrow (8/4/2020). I'll have a reply to that afterward whether the same holds true.

 

Didn't read whole thread, no need... nonevent. What Trump wants to do is TROLL LW, MSM and their massive shill armies all across the planet.

As usual he did a bang up job! The Trump Presidency has been worthy for several reasons, but especially good in the amount of REEEEEEEING he elicits from the vast Complex propaganda machine.

Thread is just another of 1000s of examples. LOL.

 

With no actually mail-in voting just absentee voting allowed for everyone and that request can be made up to the Friday before the vote. If you request it the day before or on election day it must be cast and the voter registrars office. And of course you must sign which means their is a record of your vote with your signature that is being turned it so they can check the signature. And I am sure they will be inundated with such ballots and they are not trained in forensic signature analysis and that will be rushed through...........

So yes I wonder what problems they will have and how long it will take for them to announce the results. The long it takes between the time the voting stops and the results are announce the more time fraud can occur.

 

Nah. Just tweaking the geniuses who cheated in 2016 in every way and still couldn't win. Yep. The party that cheated in the final debate. The party that conspired with our allies to infiltrate and frame the Trump campaign. The party that colluded with Russia to fabricate a bogus dossier on Trump. The party that refused to accept the results of the 2016 election and is on their msm marketing arm to accuse Trump of planning to do what they did. The Democrat Party has become a national joke.