Trump Was Fined $9,000 For Speaking

Your claim is that any time you pay a lawyer, that's a legal expense. That's insane. Do you understand that, just because someone is a lawyer, doesn't mean than any money you give them is automatically a legal expense? Do you understand, for example, that paying a lawyer to kill someone isn't a legal expense? Please be honest. After you answer, we can move forward.

 

You're dodging. You have said repeatedly that payments to an attorney for their time on a matter and a legal contract cannot be classified as a "legal expense" in a ledger. Why? Dumb it down for us. Trump didn't pay an attorney to kill someone. He paid one for their professional time as a lawyer and to reimburse him for a legal contract. You said it's a crime to label it as a "legal expense" in a ledger and you could dumb it down for us. Explain that. Nobody is talking about murder.

My position, as it has always been, is that payments to your attorney to negotiate an NDA and to cover the costs of an NDA can be labeled a "legal expense.". You have said I'm wrong. Why?

 

Glad you pivoted. That was wise of you to do. So now we agree that, just because someone is a lawyer, doesn't mean that any money you give them is automatically a legal expense . . . which was your previous argument. I'm glad you came around on that. So, back to the case. Cohen made the payment to help the campaign. Please respond after you understand that.

 

There's no pivot.

Here is the conversation. It's a very clear conversation. There's no ambiguity. I informed you of the case because your knowledge was lacking. Trump's bookkeeper annotated his ledger and the checks with "legal expense" when he reimbursed his attorney for his time and for a legal contract. You said IT IS NOT A LEGAL EXPENSE and a calling it a "legal expense" in a ledger is a "lie."

How is this a lie? I understand you want the payments to come out of a campaign account despite the federal government investigating this and telling you you're wrong. But even if it came out of a campaign account, it would have been labeled as a "legal expense," and you said that is a "lie." So why is it a lie? What is the ledger supposed to say?

Or you can simply admit you were wrong and stop talking about murder and other nonsense. There's been enough of that in this thread already. I get there were a lot of super snarky posts and it's embarrassing when those posts were completely inaccurate. But there's no reason to double down.

 

The lie was that this was a legal expense. This was a campaign contribution. What are you haven't trouble understanding?

 

Aside from the glaring and embarrassing fact that the FEC and DOJ disagree with you, which campaign was Michael Cohen running? Even if it was a campaign expense, it needs to be marked in a ledger as a type of campaign expense, and the checks to Michael Cohen would need to be labeled. If Trump made payments to an attorney for services provided to his campaign and labeled it a "campaign contribution," that would be a falsified report and patently illegal.

 

Cohen pleaded guilty for this, dude. Catch up. And, no, it wouldn't be illegal in any way for Trump to make payments to his attorney for a campaign contribution and report it as such. I'm almost to the point where I have to ask you what planet you live on.