Trump's communications with a foreign leader sparked whistleblower complaint

That would be the correct way to do it.

If US law enforcement thinks (without political pressure) there is justification to start an investigation, they should start it. If they think it would be useful to get the help of the Ukrainian authorities, the should make their request through the proper channels.

Trump asking the Ukrainian president to investigate Biden’s son is an abuse of the office of the President. I don’t see how anyone can see it otherwise.

 

Trump is making his best effort of showing that every day.

And this was not a vexatious report. The IG found it to be credible and urgent, requiring follow-up by Congress.

 

OK, so you obviously don’t understand what the issue is here:

1. A whistleblower filed a complaint with he IG
2. The IG, BY LAW, if the complaint is valid/viable, must pass the complaint to Congress
3. The IG defined the complaint was valid/viable, but refuses to pass it to Congress

That in itself is eyebrow raising

NOW, if the “sources close to....” reports are true, The president is accused of asking a foreign power to help him in the election

If you dont think thats a big deal, then we as a country are doomed

 

Jebus on a stick you cant make this crap up

Trump has run the swamp for 3 years, and your still claiming the swap is some democratic conspiracy

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THIS IS JUST ANOTHE EXCUSE TO NEVER HOLD TRUMP ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANYTHING

 

Just out of curiosity Marine1, IF the IG report does claim that the president asked Ukraine to investigate his political rival, are you OK with that ?

 

My man grapey, you got it wrong... you left out a very important step

1. Complaint filed to IG - check
2. IG determines it's "credible" and "urgent" - 2 key words in the law - He passes it on to the correct head of agency, which in this case was the ACTING (on the job for 6 weeks or so) DNI, who must, BY LAW, forward it to Congress with any appropriate comments. Do NOT Pass GO, Do NOT notify the DOJ for an opinion
3. The DNI is the one refusing to pass it to Congress on that opinion. And he'll be in front of Schiff on Thursday to explain why.

Although that will be a silly exercise, since we basically know why. The IG told Schiff why in his first notification letter on 9/9. Thursday will be little more than a public dressing down for refusing to follow the law, but no complaint will be forwarded.

I have no idea what's actually in the complaint (it sure sounds bad, but who knows), but the clear failure to follow a relatively simple process in the law actually IS bad... It's no different that Mnuchin refusing to turn over Trumps taxes, as specified BY LAW (ironically with the exact same word - SHALL).

This is a lawbreaking administration that has yet to be remotely held accountable.

 

Oh have some faith ! !,,,, Trump promised that he will drain the swamp in Washington, Mexico will pay for his wall, jobs will come flying back to the USA, he will repeal OBAMACARE CARE and replace it with something better cheaper and cover everyone who want health insurance coverage.
He also promised to fund our military so well and never steal funds from our military to pay for the wall that Mexico is paying for. He will sign an Executive Order and stop global warming which doesn't exist, cure cancer and homosexuality and prevent rape.

You just need to have faith.

 

AND, the best part, when he finally moves on to the big con in the sky, there's a CHOICE of 2 more just like him (Ivanka or Junior) to carry on...

WHEW... we are so covered for leadership..

And Eric will be King of Greenland

 

As someone who opposes the impeachment of Fake Don and the consequent accession of Ayatollah Pence, the Wall Street Journal's tawdry revelations concern me.

Trump is already on record stating his willingness to collaborate with foreign interests against his domestic political opponents.

Here we go again. Trump bum kissers are, understandably, hysterical.

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You"ve got to love the way he talks to those liberal media morons. People will elect him again. That much U.S so called journalists are despised.

Trump Says 'Everybody' (Except Him) Has Read Whistleblower's Report, And 'They Laugh At It'


https://m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-whistleblower-ukraine_us_5d85614ae4b070d468ccdaef

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"We all need the details before we know for certain if there was...a security violation." (PARTIZAN1)
Those details, to ascertain if there was a security violation, would include the name of the mole in the intelligence service...WAPO moles, and CNN moles... Still there is that thing about our need to know, but hey you didn't include that limitation in "WE all need the details."

 

When you mash all the bullshit out of this "whistleblower" thing, THIS is what the Left has got its panties in a knot about: https://www.foxnews.com/media/peter...ht-to-ask-for-investigation-into-hunter-biden

Who's Hunter Biden? Why he's 'Geriatric Joe's' own son!

From the story:
"Author Peter Schweizer on Friday night addressed the questions surrounding Hunter Biden’s involvement with a Ukrainian natural gas company while his father, former Vice President Joe Biden, oversaw America’s Ukraine policy."

Typical political crap, but if I'd been Trump, I might have had one of my 'underlings' pass on the request to find out what slimebag deals were being conducted....

Not that anybody would have cared. Hell, nobody cared when it came to light that Hillary Clinton had sold the rights to a huge proportion of America's uranium in the "Uranium One" scandal -- which was quickly pushed out of sight by the hyperliberal "news" media....

 

The law doesn't require a release and it would be highly classified anyway. How about Ukraine cooperate in the investigation of the quid pro quo?

 

Yes, it does.. the ig says it does and that's his job..

Also, the Intel committees deal with classified info every day, so that's not a problem..

 

Trump says? I can't believe people still believe what this guy has to say. I guess that happens though when you have your lips permanently affixed to someone's ass.

 

You mean trumps attempt to blackmail them using taxpayer funds?

 

You know exactly what I was talking about and there are no claims Trump offered Ukraine anything or threatened to deny them anything.

"Mr. Trump in the call didn’t mention a provision of U.S. aid to Ukraine, said this person, who didn’t believe Mr. Trump offered the Ukrainian president any quid pro quo for his cooperation on any investigation"
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-defends-conversation-with-ukraine-leader-11568993176

 

Why don't you see Biden's use of his office to benefit his son a crime, let alone Hillary's pay to play with the Clinton Foundation? Joe Biden was Obama's point man on Ukraine, along comes his son with no known expertise in Ukraine or energy, yet he is hired for $83,000 a month by a Ukrainian energy company. I haven't gotten a job offer like that. If Biden Jr. wasn't selling his expertise, what was he selling? Guilliani has sworn statements from five Ukrainians that there was some kind of fishy influence peddling going on. For Pete's sake, we have film of Biden bragging about his involvement.

 

LOL, who was telling the truth and who was lying on the collusion delusion your side pushed for two years?

 

Yah and the mafia doesn’t tell you that the protection money is protecting you from them. But you figure it out.

In August, Congress approved $250 million in military aid to Ukraine, which has been fighting a hot war with Russia since 2014. But at the end of August, Politico reported that the Trump administration seemed to be "slow-walking" that military assistance.

 

Fine. Use the proper channels to investigate.

Not the president.

 

Allegations that Joe Biden abused his position as Vice President to strongarm Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor - who was leading a wide-ranging investigation into Biden's son Hunter and the natural gas firm that paid him $50,000 per month despite his total lack of experience.

This is not going to help Joe's run, Seems Democrats can't get a break.....

 

Conveniently omitted by the president are the facts that (a) the whistleblower has tried to comply with federal law and go through government channels rather than leaking information to the Trump-hostile media; (b) the IGIC to whom the whistleblower made his report is a Trump appointee, namely Michael Atkinson, a career Justice Department prosecutor who got the IGIC gig in 2018; and (c) Atkinson concluded that the whistleblower’s complaint was credible and sufficiently serious to be deemed a matter of “urgent concern.”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/09/trump-whistleblower-claim-congress-should-investigate/

 

Are there any truth to those allegations, though? Biden was sent there by Obama at the behest of other countries. Apparently this guy they wanted gone was pretty corrupt.

Not that I care much about Biden either way. Please, Democrats, anyone but Biden.

 

The facts are that Hillary did not sell the rights to American uranium it was not owned by the US government because it was owned by a Canadian company after an American NOT Hillary sold the mining rights to a Canadian company.