Trump's Four Obstruction of Justice Crimes 100% proven in the Mueller Report

You can say whatever you want about Mueller: Attack him, call him a "Democrat", make up some nutty "Deep State" conspiracy theory, .... that's up to you. But if you hear anybody saying that the Mueller Report "cleared" or "exonerated" Trump... they are lying!

Mueller found ample evidence (references quoted here) that Trump committed the crime of Obstruction of Justice. But OLC indications based on DoJ regulations and prosecutorial procedures prevented the Special Counsel from prosecuting a sitting President or even accusing a sitting President of having committed a crime (See http://www.politicalforum.com/index...even-say-that-trump-committed-a-crime.556548/)

The only thing that Mueller is allowed to do is state the facts. And here they are....

1- The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel (Page 77)

Mueller says: Substantial evidence indicates that the President's attempts to remove the Special Counsel were linked to the Special Counsel's oversight of investigations that involved the President's conduct - and, most immediately , to reports that the President was being investigated for potential obstruction of justice [...]There also is evidence that the President knew that he should not have made those calls to McGahn.

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2- The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation (Page 90)

Mueller says: Substantial evidence indicates that the President 's effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the Special Counsel's investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President ' s and his campaign's conduct.​

3- The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation (Page 107)

Mueller says: There is evidence that at least one purpose of the President 's conduct towardSessions was to have Sessions assume control over the Russia investigation and supervise it in a way that would restrict its scope.​

4- The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the
Special Counsel (Page 113)

Mueller says: Substantial evidence indicates that in repeatedly urging McGahn to dispute that he was ordered to have the Special Counsel terminated , the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahn 's account in order to deflect or prevent further scrutiny of the President's conduct towards the investigation.
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Mueller cited ten cases of obstruction. But for these four he includes all the elements normally required to convict: act, nexus and intent. The other six still require one of these elements. The report includes instructions to Congress on what is needed. And this is why Trump is stonewalling the investigation.

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Nothing sends Trumpists fleeing in the opposite direction faster than a logical delineation of the facts that the POTUS is an unindicted criminal.

 

I shall await the inevitable deflections, rationalizations, and insults with great anticipation.

 

Or...........you'll just be ignored.........a common practice by Trumpette's when faced with the truth.

 

None of these things are obstruction.

 

Wake me up when those indictments drop.

ZzzzzZZZzz zzzZZZZzzzzz

 

whats funny is that all of the deflections, rationalizations, and insults are coming from your fellow violent leftists.

 

Yet, still nothing. What intent would there be for an investigation that was started by a hoax in the first place? What would be the criminal intent for wanting an investigation based on false pretenses that have proven, by the Mueller report, to be the fact?

 

Well, wait no longer! This is where charges are normally and officially charged, well normally speaking that is!

 

Putting criminals in jail, I guess.

Happy to see you are no longer denying that Trump is a criminal, though.

 

So you are saying that Trump is too abnormal to be tried?

 

Well clearly is not Trump with the abnormality in this situation! I can only go from all the things I read, and to be completely honest there have been many STRANGE abnormalities in this entire quest, reasoning and conclusions

 

If you mean a lack of evidence for your claims means that Trump is guilty then you are just another politburo member.

 

1. The only problem is that Mueller wasn't removed. He was allowed to continue his investigation.
2. Again, it never happened.
3. Never happened.
4. Possible, but even if true, it's not a crime.

 

What evidence, Mueller doesn't list any evidence.

What evidence, Mueller doesn't list any evidence.

Wat evidence, Mueller doesn't list any evidence.

What evidence, Mueller doesn't list any evidence.

 

Oh yeah! That most definitely was the problem! That having failed, what could save Trump from doing jail time? Some discombobulated plan to pardon himself?

I'll bet he resigns as soon as he loses the elections, so that Pence can pardon him. Self-pardon would be too much of a risk.

 

Sorry, but did you expect me to copy and paste the whole 480 pages of the report here? Mueller gives the evidence in great detail. The page number indicated is where the analysis begins. The footnotes point to the corresponding documents,

 

I've read it.

He gives no proof of anything.

He says there is substantial proof but never lists any of it.

But please why don't you just give us one or two of these clear examples of proof so we can analyze it?

I'm betting you can't.

 

He didnt commit a crime, so thats the problem?

Maybe he thought about it and talked about it with advisors, but thinking and doing are two different things.

 

It's like when they say Trump lies or he's a congenital liar. If you ask for examples they say, he said he'd release his tax returns, or he said Mexico will pay for the wall, or crowd size...

And I'm like...

 

You haven't read it. Look for the page number that I mention and read.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

 

The other option is that the whole Trump clan end up on an island in Vanuatu since that has no extradition treaty with the USA - that way they ALL get to escape the looming lawsuits

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/29/lawsuit-trump-family-racketeering-947075
https://www.politico.com/magazine/s...r-justice-department-lawsuit-moshe-lax-219369
http://fortune.com/2018/09/21/donald-trump-lawsuit-investigation-charges-news-update/

 

Well... the jury will have to decide between Mueller's hard, clear, and very detailed evidence (see OP), and your wishful thinking... Decisions.. decisions....

It's amazing that I gave you the quotes, the report references, page numbers....which you can verify for yourself. And you can still say he didn't commit any crimes? Unbelievable!

 

Mueller's reticence is becoming a problem. He has been summoned to discuss his report before the House Judiciary Committee — but he wants to do it, more or less, behind closed doors, away from the television cameras that would broadcast his comments to the world.

"He envisions himself correctly as a man of great rectitude and apolitical and he doesn't want to participate in anything that he might regard as a political spectacle," Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y. said.

That is a bum excuse. This has been a "political spectacle" for over two years. It is called the investigation of the President. If that isn't a "political spectacle," I don't know what is.

So there is far more at stake than Mueller's self-respect. If he wants the public to understand — truly understand — the conclusions he and his team came to in the Russia report, then he has to sacrifice his silence, go before the cameras, and start talking. To beat the constant storm of tweets, cable news commentary, propaganda, and lies that swirl around Trump — and to project a resounding sense of clarity — Mueller must at long last submit to the process, if only for a day.

 

Well there is a nice example with his broken promise about golf, then there is the lie about Mexico paying for the wall and then there is the lie about.......

https://www.nrdc.org/trump-lies

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/